Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sameh Sami (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. setting aside !votes not based in policy, there remains clear consensus to delete. Anyone wishing to rewrite this needs to begin by finding WP:SIGCOV and building the article based on that. Vanamonde (Talk) 05:37, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Sameh Sami
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Hello all, The article was nominated for deletion, but the deletion discussion happened to have a disparity of opinion due to the presence of several puppet accounts in the discussion. There is a recommendation to reopen the deletion discussion.

I would like to express my point of view about the deletion: I am an Arab and I have not heard of it before, and the person who published the article is a banned account on the French Wikipedia and an account banned on the English Wikipedia because of its use of dummies accounts, the person tried to publish the article on the Arabic Wikipedia and the article was deleted 14 times, and he tried to write The article was published on the French Wikipedia, and the article was deleted (quick deletion). The article was published on the Dutch Wikipedia, and there was a discussion to delete it, and the article was deleted from the Dutch Wikipedia.

Plus there are many broken and unprofessional references. Osps7 (talk) 13:24, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Journalism and Egypt.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 14:00, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. This work is inarguably the workproduct of a blocked sockpuppet of a blocked sockmaster. In the previous AfD the sockpuppet and at least one other blocked sock asserted keep. Based on discussion in the first process, it appears that several of the Arabic language sources neither directly detail nor accurately account for the subject. BusterD (talk) 04:05, 18 February 2023 (UTC)


 * It seems that Mr. Osama Eid Osps7 has a problem with the author of the article or with the creator of the article. Please see the complaints page on the Arabic Wikipedia

https://ar.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ويكيبيديا:إداريون/مشاكل#يجب_التركيز_على_عمل_المحررين_وإدخال_المهنية_إلى_عملهم_ويجب_أن_يبتعدوا_عن_النكاية, as there seem to be several complaints about him and another person who is considered his teacher.I do not want to register my name so as not to pursue my articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 102.190.30.8 (talk • contribs) 14:28, February 18, 2023 (UTC)


 * keep. And I’m An editor is an Egyptian Wikipedia editor and there is a revised and protected article about this person. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 102.190.30.8 (talk) 15:15, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: This subject was previously discussed at AfD and after closure immediately re-nominated at the suggestion of the closer of that process. The previous process was made confusing by now blocked sockpuppets and ip editors from other language Wikipedias. We welcome the input of good faith contributors of all languages, especially in analysis of non-English sourcing. Discovered sockpuppetry will be unwelcome, brought to the discussion's attention, and dealt with appropriately. BusterD (talk) 16:44, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Relisting. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 18:11, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
 * weak keep or redirect as per previously discussed at Afd--Ibrahim daowd (talk) 15:42, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
 * weak delete . I am an Arab and I am not know film magazine  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.181.107.198 (talk) 19:53, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Many sock puppet accounts and IP addresses tried to defend the article, and this confirms that there is a violation of policies, and the article also created an account that was banned in a number of Wikipedia projects. The article was deleted in the French Wikipedia, the article was deleted in the Dutch Wikipedia (after discussion) and the article was deleted 14 times in the Arabic Wikipedia! The article should be deleted.--Osps7 (talk) 22:56, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete As I said earlier, the article is for advertising and promotional purposes only, the personality does not achieve importance, and I am an Arab and I have not heard of this personality before, and the existing references do not talk about the person and some of them do not work.
 * Struck delete vote as your nomination statement counts as your delete vote, Atlantic306 (talk) 00:35, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Mr. Atlantic306 asked  him on his page (have you edited as Ibrahim.ID ?) Mr. osama Osps7 should read this links:
 * Comment starting the previous AfD was the second edit of new account, from Adelk220. He seems as suspected. And after closure immediately re-nominated at the suggestion of the closer of that process.. why?

 it is an interview with him in the Egyptian Syndicate and he is an editor of an Egyptian film magazine so he is notable. please read the Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia article.

- So don't have your say!

There are many of references are not an article written by him as claimed in the nomination and is significant coverage about him translated here.

here the protection level for " Sameh Sami " ([Modify=Sysop Only] (unchecked) [Move=Sysop Only] in he Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia. -Sameh Sami is the editor-in-chief of Film Magazine, which is considered one of the prominent and influential magazines in Egypt. It is the only specialized magazine now in Egypt in the culture of cinema. He is also the director of the Cairo Jesuits, which is one of the prominent cultural places in Egypt built on the legacy of the second oldest studio. Cinematic and includes famous art schools such as the School of Film, Animation and Theater.


 * Delete: My main concern is this is a BLP and the sourcing is very questionable, I don't think it clears the independent RS with SIGCOV test. BLPs need to be completely based on clearly independent unbaised RS.  // Timothy :: talk  05:18, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
 * please read these links:
 * interview with him at the Egyptian Syndicate (official website)
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 * 45.243.255.179 (talk) 15:29, 2 March 2023 (UTC)


 * keep He is an editor in chief of an influential publication is sufficiently notable — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.243.255.179 (talk) 15:52, 2 March 2023 (UTC)


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