Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Samethanahalli Rama Rao (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. There is one keep !vote from, with whom I find myself often in agreement. However, not this time. I have checked the references that they added to the article, which are in-passing mentions and don't seem to be in-depth discussions. The "Who's Who" listed here is published by the International Biographical Centre, a vanity publisher. Listing in one of their publications can be bought very easily. In sum, I find that the delete !votes have the stronger arguments. Randykitty (talk) 16:16, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Samethanahalli Rama Rao
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Seems to fail WP:GNG. There has been some discussion at the India Wikiproject noticeboard here. That the subject authored books does not make them notable per se. - Sitush (talk) 15:11, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. &mdash;&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·E·C) 15:34, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. &mdash;&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·E·C) 15:34, 9 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete. Subject fails general notability guidelines, there are hardly any reliable sources to establish notability. Even after considering the instructions mentioned at INDAFD; there are no significance coverage about the subject in reliable sources. — CutestPenguinHangout 15:51, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete The most significant mention I can find seems to be here. This seems to suggest some notability as an author, but just not enough. Vanamonde93 (talk) 17:15, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm the editor of this article and am also related to the subject. This author was well known in Kannada literature and there are plenty of citations offline and in Kannada. He also has an entry in the Kannada Wikipedia (not authored by me). There were some citations found in a prior AfD discussion - not sure if they are enough to keep the entry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yasho78 (talk • contribs) 18:25, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I found several online citations in Kannada and added them to the article. There are several more available - please search Google for "ಸಮೇತನಹಳ್ಳಿ"
 * We will need translations and an indication of why the websites are reliable sources. - Sitush (talk) 19:12, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I tried looking for ಸಮೇತನಹಳ್ಳಿ on Google but hardly found any reliable sources. — Cute<b style="color:#00A300">st</b><b style="color:#0A47FF">Penguin</b>Hangout 17:40, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Please specify which of the sources cited are unreliable, and how (and where) translations can be provided — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.224.162.88 (talk) 19:29, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete if it can't be improved as my searches found this which suggests there is coverage about him but the question is whether it's accessible and available. The first AfD suggested keeping but I think this article could be better and there has been more than enough time to improve it. SwisterTwister   talk  05:34, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * It is ok to use offline sources etc. The issue here is determining whether those sources would be (a) reliable, (b) independent, and (c) something more than just passing mentions. That is why I think we need to have some more information/translations of relevant bits etc. We probably could do with running them past someone who speaks Kannada and has no connection with the article subject. - Sitush (talk) 05:45, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

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 * I am native Kannada speaker and this writer was well known and his works are studied and regarded well in literary circles. Special mention should be made of his epics or Maha-kavyas, a literary tradition of Kannada language of great importance and antiquity. I have printed books and review articles on his works. Will try to provide the references to same. Kindly do not delete this article. Ramashray (talk) 05:03, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Mention in Kannada volume of "Indian Literature" by C.H. PRAHLADA RAO

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 * Keep a well-known and critically acclaimed author, I added two English-language sources to the article, there are more in google book search (I wonder why other !voters can't find them), he is also in Who's who in Asia and the Pacific Nations (1999; pg. 359) Kraxler (talk) 18:12, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, S warm   ♠  06:51, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - While this author has been referenced tangentially by some sources, it looks like they're only somewhat notable. I pretty much agree with the arguments made by the nominator. Having a fan following and some commercial success isn't the same thing as getting major reliable source coverage. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 13:58, 3 September 2015 (UTC)


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