Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Samir Abbar


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The result was delete. Could be revived if sources in Arabic (or any other language) are located in the future, but for now the consensus is to delete. RL0919 (talk) 03:38, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Samir Abbar

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Despite playing in only two games in Ligue 2 I can't seem to find any resources stating that he played for the French team back in 2005-06. HawkAussie (talk) 00:53, 27 September 2019 (UTC) HawkAussie (talk) 00:53, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
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 * Comment - Football Database supports the 2apps in Ligue 2, though it's a moot point given it breaches the low appearance threshold anyway. However, I'd like an actual look into his Arabic name for potential media hits. It's admittedly unlikely given he played Ligue 2 (twice) and below for one French club, but we shouldn't delete without checking this - otherwise we'd have a bias to non-English articles. I usually would do so, but I'm unable to find a reliable name translation. R96Skinner (talk) 01:35, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Fair point, but Abbar joined Créteil at age 13. I doubt there is going to be any significant coverage in Algeria-based sources.
 * In reply to the nom, Abbar definitely played in Ligue 2 - he was expelled from the match against Bastia according to this match report. Jogurney (talk) 14:26, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
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 * Delete - scraped by on WP:NFOOTBALL which is not enough when he fails GNG so comprehensively. Plenty of consensus about this. GiantSnowman 09:35, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Article about footballer who made two appearances in fully-pro Ligue 2 (see my note above), but for which there is no significant coverage in English- or French-language reliable sources. I haven't determined a proper Arabic translation of his name to search Arabic-language sources, but since he spent his entire playing career in France, the utter lack of coverage in French-language sources suggests strongly that an Arabic-language source search won't yield anything either. With a comprehensive GNG failure, the presumption of notability in NFOOTBALL doesn't hold. Jogurney (talk) 14:31, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't necessarily disagree about the Arabic sources part, as I mentioned myself, but I think it would be poor of us to assume that; however likely it is. Abbar could be written about for something other than his footballing career, for all we know he could be making a career for himself in Algeria in a different field. Again, probably unlikely but surely we can't claim a subject fails something that we haven't even checked? It's an issue for Wikipedia as a whole to be honest, language barriers are rarely taken into account. R96Skinner (talk) 17:28, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I am confident that سمير = Samir, and نادي كريتيل = Créteil-Lusitanos. Searching for these generates no relevant results. Without an Arabic transliteration of his surname, we can't be certain, but it's odd that nothing comes up with the more generic search. Jogurney (talk) 19:55, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails WP:SIGCOV and WP:GNG.4meter4 (talk) 19:38, 3 October 2019 (UTC)


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