Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Samir Masimov (3rd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. It appears the the discussion has rejected the offered sources. I did glance through them in case they were strong enough to trump the discussion but this doesn't seem to be the case. Spartaz Humbug! 11:56, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Samir Masimov
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This afd needs to be redone, as the last one was subject to significant sockpuppetry. A majority of users opposing deletion three months ago have since been blocked for sockpuppetry following this SPI. The basic rationale of the last afd still stands. Joe Deckers closing remarks at Articles for deletion/Tarlan Guliyev some up the situation nicely. Without reliable sources confirming the professional status of the Azerbaijan Premier League one way or the other, WP:NSPORT gives a clearly ambiguous result, meaning that notability depends on WP:GNG which this article fails. Sir Sputnik (talk) 19:59, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 20:01, 10 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete, fails both WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. No evidence the is Azerbaijan Premier League is fully-professional, and no indication of significant coverage. GiantSnowman 20:12, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete - He hasn't played in a Fully professional league and he doesn't have any international caps either therefore he fails WP:NFOOTBALL. IJA (talk) 10:45, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL which requires a "Fully Professional League" - are there WP:RS that he played in one? If so add them to the article. Otherwise Delete. --Jersey92 (talk) 13:25, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - Fails WP:NFOOTY as has not played senior international football nor played in a fully professional league. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG. Fenix down (talk) 15:50, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - Non-notable association football player. Fails specific notability guideline per WP:NFOOTBALL (never played a game in a fully professional league), and the general notability guidelines per WP:GNG (lacks significant coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources).  You can also put this vote down as a pile-on anti-sock puppetry !vote, too -- we've seen far too many sock puppets in recent AfDs.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 01:36, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep. According to WP:NFOOTBALL players who have played in a fully professional league are notable. Masimov played in Neftchi Baku which is a clup of Azerbaijan professional leage. The list of fully professional leagues in WikiProject Football is not completed (It's mentioned there). Azerbaijani football clubs (including Neftchi) play in UEFA European League (even in group stage), which says that Azerbaijan football league is fully professional. --Interfase (talk) 12:31, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment - per WP:FPL, there is no consensus that the Azerbaijan League is fully professional. Competing in european competition in no way means that the league a club originates from is fully professional. Fenix down (talk) 15:39, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I added Azerbaijan. Because there are two professional football divisions in Azerbaijan, the Azerbaijan Premier League and the Azerbaijan First Division


 * Keep - Meets WP:GNG with an unusual amount of Russian and Azerbaijani media coverage      . Nfitz (talk) 16:36, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete If he is not fully pro, he is not fully pro. --DoctorBob3 (talk) 18:30, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * The primary criteria has nothing do do with whether one is fully pro. If one meets WP:GNG why does it matter if they are not fully pro? Though evidence suggests he is fully-pro - just that the league his team plays in, may not be fully pro. Nfitz (talk) 17:20, 14 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete If there's no consensus that the league is actually fully professional then he doesn't pass WP:NFOOTBALL and therefore doesn't pass WP:GNG.  D u s t i *Let's talk!* 01:17, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment Note to User:Dusti and User:DoctorBob3 - WP:NFOOTBALL doesn't trump WP:GNG. If a player meets WP:GNG it doesn't matter if they don't meet WP:NFOOTBALL or other notability requirements. Nfitz (talk) 02:09, 18 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete - Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL, has not played in a fully pro league. JMHamo (talk) 13:31, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
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