Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sampangan


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. AfD is not for cleanup. Editorial issues, including redirecting, should be discussed on the article's talk page. (non-admin closure) Tim Song (talk) 22:18, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Sampangan

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This article has multiple issuses.


 * 1) It does not flow smoothly.
 * 2) It doesn't have enough information to identify the subjuct.
 * 3) It is not wikified. The author probably didn't read the Wikipedia Manual of Style.  Btilm  02:57, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: Points 1 and 3 are never grounds for deletion, just FA status denial. Point 2 could lead to deletion if there is no way to know what the article is about, which is not the case here. The village of Sampangan can be found on Google Earth at and is part of the city of Pekalongan. However, it represents an area of just a few blocks, and unless its status as a separate municipal division can be confirmed, I will support no more than a Redirect. --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 03:13, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep As Blanchardb says, issues 1 and 3 are not grounds for deletion - just issues that need work to make this a better article. I also disagree with the second point - although it needs work to make the content more encyclopedic, what is there (and was when nominated) is more than enough information to identify the subject. Although it is only an essay, I agree with Inherent notability that all villages, towns, etc are inherently notable. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 10:10, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Indonesia-related deletion discussions. Thryduulf (talk) 10:25, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I have expanded the article a bit - a Google Search (News, Scholar, Books) had quite a few hits (I added a couple) but mostly they are in Indonesian, which I can't read (although obviously Google Translate is useful!). I am going to add a message on WikiProject Indonesia (or whatever relevant WikiProjects there are) to ask for someone who reads Indonesian to have a look.
 * I should point out to the nominator that the author of the article is probably not a fluent English speaker - indeed the article was translated using Google Translate from the Indonesian Wikipedia article. A stub for a village such as this should be given leeway, to enable it to be developed. I only did a quick search and found several references to the village, and added just a few. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 11:38, 14 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment Such xfd articles hould always at least wait until an obviously active member of the WP Indonesian project is able to comment. Regular  attempts by non english speaking editors to add items about  their villages usually exhibits a lack of knowledge about the english language  indonesian project and that should not be grounds for deletion -but assistance  SatuSuro 13:37, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep; by long standing precedent, named places found on maps are generally considered to be inherently notable, and the other concerns are purely cleanup matters. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 16:05, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep An article needing improvement is not grounds for deletion. real named places are inherently notable. Edward321 (talk) 02:34, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.