Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sampra yoga


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 22:25, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Sampra yoga

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PRODded as unsourced and WP:CFORK of Ashtanga (eight limbs of yoga), which covers the same ground. The author has removed the PROD and added 4 refs, all to Patanjali's Yoga Sutras which defines the Ashtanga, so here we are. The existing Ashtanga article both covers the eightfold path and cites numerous scholarly sources on the topic, which has been extensively researched; a search for "Ashtanga yoga" with "Patanjali" gets some 200,000 hits. The new article introduces a little-used name "Sampra yoga" which gets 21 hits in total, several of them a yoga school in the Netherlands. Apart from Patanjali's Yoga Sutras, the article remains wholly unsourced, not surprising as there are no published sources about "Sampra Yoga". The first two refs to the Yoga Sutras are both to chapter 2, sutra 44, "svadhyayad ishta-devata-samprayogah", meaning "Self-study deepens communion with one's personal deity." Needless to say, this brief verse does not support the claims in the lead which it is positioned to support. The topic is not notable; it appears to be substantially a poor content fork of the existing article, and if anything there is describing something new (not relating to Patanjali's Yoga Sutras) then it is wholly uncited and original research. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:00, 20 July 2022 (UTC) Relisting comment: Already PROD'd, not eligible for "Soft Deletion". Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:25, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Hinduism-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:35, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: Fails any notability criteria. This is a WP:PSEUDOSCIENCE topic, which does not merit an article. Venkat TL (talk) 16:51, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
 * : if it's indeed pseudoscience, that would be a third cause for deletion. Why does it belong in that category? Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:08, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * @Chiswick Chap Yoga, chakra etc are all part of pseudoscience. EPW Venkat TL (talk) 15:19, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Hm, they're also religion, philosophy, and for that matter exercise. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:22, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * They are marketed in many different ways, but the fact remains that there is no science backing its principles. Hence pseudoscience. Venkat TL (talk) 15:43, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Well in that case we should nominate Yoga for deletion... something wrong here, to coin a phrase. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:45, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Yoga even though PS is notable enough to be covered on Wikipedia. But different aspects of yoga like this article or (any PS side topic) dont deserve that generosity. Venkat TL (talk) 15:49, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

1) There are sources, in this case the Yoga Sutra of Patanjali, in which samprayoga is clearly indicated. What does the Netherlands have to do with it? :) 2) There is a misconception that only one opinion can be correct. Regarding yoga, it is a completely diverse system, there is yoga among Jains, Sikhs, there is yoga among Buddhists. In this case, it is indicated in the article Indian yoga, from the writings of Patanjali 3) In the end, what we have. We have a source - Sutras - in which sampra yoga is clearly indicated. And there are opinions of modern people who confidently declare that their understanding of the Patanjali Sutra is certainly correct. 4) Colleagues - let's expand our knowledge. Let's take everyone home and read the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali and be surprised to discover that he is writing about sampra yoga. By the way, the word ashtanga - Patanjali in his sutras never called the word yoga.Magyar from Bashkiria (talk) 09:35, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. The subject matter is covered well enough by other pages that are well sourced and of indisputable notability. If there is anything of unique value in this article, it would be more appropriate to merge it with Yoga Sutras of Patanjali. Chagropango (talk) 07:12, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Don't Delete, Leave the article in place - Of course, leave the article, what kind of dispute can there be on this topic? I will give arguments:
 * Note: "User:Magyar from Bashkiria" appears to be the same as the article's author, "User:Magyar from Ural". I doubt it's sockpuppetry, more likely a lost password resulting in a new account. Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:28, 29 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete, already covered sufficiently in Ashtanga (eight limbs of yoga). Suonii180 (talk) 12:39, 3 August 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.