Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Samuel Finkelstein


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The result was   keep. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:06, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Samuel Finkelstein

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Article on a painter. I don't see any assertion of notability here per WP:ARTIST; that Chaim Goldberg remembered this person does not imply notability. I also checked Google Books for "Samuel Finkelstein Artist" but nothing is turning up for an artist by that name. PROD was removed with no additional sources added. Mr. Vernon (talk) 02:25, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep I found several listings of his art work, including a museum where his work is on display today. He was a member of the Jewish and Polish art movement during his era. He died in a Nazi death camp, which I sourced. He's also included in a book of notable artists, which I cited. Article needs more work, but he appears to meet WP:ARTIST notability. (unsigned but by User:AuthorAuthor)
 * His death in a Nazi death camp is a tragedy but it was equally a tragedy for the six million other Jews who died in the Holocaust; that does not confer notability. As far as the added references: the ArtNet link has nothing about the artist except information that one of his paintings was sold; not even a basic biography; the ahice.net document references him once as an example of a realistic painter; ArtFacts.net has information about his place/location of birth and death and nothing else.  The AskArt link has nothing.  He may be mentioned in one of the books listed on Chaim Goldberg's site, but he isn't notable enough to list as one of the subjects of study (unlike other artists.)  I'm sorry but I still don't see any evidence that he meets notability guidelines for artists.  --Mr. Vernon (talk) 07:52, 11 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - Listed, shown painter. Just as his death at the hands of the Nazis isn't of itself reason for inclusion, neither is it a disqualifying factor. Wikipedia is better off with this piece than without it, bottom line. Carrite (talk) 15:56, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep This is the 3rd interwar European Jewish artist article cited for deletion in 24 hours, with the same weak excuses for deletion. In all cases they WERE notable within the pre-war Jewish European artistic world. Irondome (talk) 01:43, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * You kind of have to prove that, I think. Lack of notability through a lack of coverage in secondary sources as noted in WP:SOURCES is not a weak excuse. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 02:17, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * By that logic, you will have to delete all references to an historical King Arthur on Wiki. There are no contemporary sources extant whatsoever. The point is that the well-recorded destruction of an entire ethnic group including its intelligensia and much of its records does not disprove Notability of a contemporary artist of note within his community. Irondome (talk) 02:29, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * • Gene93k (talk) 16:01, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * • Gene93k (talk) 16:01, 11 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete. Concurring with the nomination that the subject does not  meet  the criteria in  WP:ARTIST. The references, including  the Word.doc are listing and do not add any biographical information or support the requirements in  WP:ARTIST. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:37, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. I see a number of references on GBooks and Google. Seems notable. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 19:17, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment Can you cite some sources that are more than just a passion mention of his name, e.g. that meet the guidelines in WP:SOURCES? --Mr. Vernon (talk) 22:24, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Article looking good now. Good potential Irondome (talk) 02:11, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.