Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Samuel Thayer (author)


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Qwaiiplayer (talk) 12:17, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Samuel Thayer (author)

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self published author. 3  meaningless awards by a book distributor.  DGG ( talk ) 08:46, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:00, 31 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete, lacks independent coverage to meet WP:NBIO. MrsSnoozyTurtle 11:04, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
 * The Midwest Book Awards, for which Thayer won first and second places in 2006 and 2010, is not a "meaningless" organization and only a "book distributor": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midwest_Independent_Publishers_Association. Further, the Independent Book Publisher's Association, who gives out the Benjamin Franklin Award, is also not a "book distributor": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Book_Publishers_Association.If these are "meaningless" awards, then why were they given by organizations for whom there are Wikipedia pages? Is DGG saying that Wikipedia is creating meaningless pages?Steven C. Price 19:02, 31 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep "self-published" or not, this nomination implicitly assumes lack of coverage in reliable third party sources. There may not be enough material to write a John Muir length biography, but there appears to be enough coverage in reliable third-party sources to make a brief but complete and policy-compliant encyclopedic entry. Nationally broadcast NPR program Morning Edition calls Thayer "a leader in efforts to revive the ancient art of foraging" and Mountain Home magazine calls him "one of the nation's leading experts on foraging for wild edibles". Additional biographical coverage is found in outlets such as Duluth News Tribune, PBS Wisconsin, Isthmus alternative newspaper, Civil Eats, The Salt (NPR), Wisconsin Natural Resources Magazine, and Wisconsin Life. Several other sources simply include Thayer's books as recommended resources, such as The Atlantic, The Austin Chronicle, and ''The Herald Journal,


 * Since there are multiple reliable sources, spanning well over a decade, that give non-trivial overage of Thayer's accomplishments and biography, invoking no original research, Thayer meets basic notability criteria for biographies as well as the general notability guideline. --Animalparty! (talk) 05:36, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

8'd say out of aour 5 + million articles, ant least a few percent are meaningless, or have no sigificance except fo the subject.The MIPC is appropriate for an article, and has one. The article gives no indi=cation thqta its awards are 1notable or erecognized. It's awards, however, are paid promotionalism for mostly self-published authors. There's one evieww in a national souce, but its one of 1 in a group review..`.  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 23:44, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
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 * Keep seems notable in his niche. Johnbod (talk) 17:32, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. Passes WP:SIGCOV and WP:NAUTHOR per sources provided by Animalparty.4meter4 (talk) 02:45, 15 September 2021 (UTC)


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