Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SamyGO (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep. Though the article has sufficient sources, it needs to be expanded. (non-admin closure) ASTIG😎  (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 04:30, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

SamyGO
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Non-notable project that resells "rooted" TVs – Broccoli &#38; Coffee  (Oh hai) 04:26, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete: As per nom, this is a non-notable project with non-notable references. --Whiteguru (talk) 05:04, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * @Whiteguru Please also read WP:IGNORINGATD. PhotographyEdits (talk) 13:36, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * When I came to this article, some of the references were already marked seen. I was curious about this until I looked further and found I had in fact seen them before, attached to a previously deleted article. That is why I said, non-notable references. --Whiteguru (talk) 19:59, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. I added a reference from The Irish Times, a newspaper of record. "Resell" does not seem to be correct here. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 08:39, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * @Broccoli and Coffee @Eastmain The project is indeed not about reselling TVs, but publishing the modified firmware as far as I understand. PhotographyEdits (talk) 13:30, 3 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep The subject meets the WP:GNG: the articles from LWN.net and the article from Hackaday and two other books are reliable, secondary, and give in-depth coverage of the subject. The article should be expanded, not deleted. PhotographyEdits (talk) 13:28, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment the sources present now do not do enough to pass GNG. Outside of the LWN post, there are two books which cover the industry but do not appear to mention this project specifically; there's a brief post from Hackaday; an article from the Irish Times that doesn't mention SamyGO at all (am I missing something with this one?); and a brief post from Mambro.it that's not exactly reliable. All of these together look like 1, maybe 2 useable sources. Hardly significant coverage, hardly reliable. Does not pass GNG. – Broccoli &#38; Coffee  (Oh hai) 17:08, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Reply: The Irish Times article had this text in a snippet: "Install UK and Irish apps on a Samsung TV (at the same time) by following the guides at www.samygo.tv. There are subscriptions available ..." I didn't notice at first that the text appears in a comment rather than the article. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 17:32, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * @Broccoli and Coffee Please do actually read the references. The book "Abusing the internet of things: blackouts, freakouts and stakeouts" writes multiple pages about SamyGO. PhotographyEdits (talk) 12:14, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
 * , from what I can see on Google Books (here and here), it seems to have a few passing mentions. Hardly WP:SIGCOV. – Broccoli &#38; Coffee  (Oh hai) 17:20, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 * You should not look for literal mentions of the name, but actually read the pages from 134 to 137. The primary subject is SamyGO and the hacks they have implemented. PhotographyEdits (talk) 18:01, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. The Irish Times source does not mention the subject, but the Hackaday and LWN refs both focus on it. I can not verify the contents of the books but if is correct above, these sources establish notability per WP:GNG. NemesisAT (talk) 15:11, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
 * You can verify it with Google Books, which the nominator can do too. PhotographyEdits (talk) 14:01, 6 August 2021 (UTC)


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