Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/San Diego Bay Wine & Food Festival


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Keep. Jreferee   t / c  23:03, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

San Diego Bay Wine &amp; Food Festival

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Appears to lack sufficient notability Chef Christopher Allen Tanner, CCC 16:19, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - The San Diego Union-Tribune has given extensive coverage to this festival --Oakshade 17:30, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Local newspapers write about all kinds of non-notable things. Punkmorten 08:20, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * You're only pigeon holing this with other completely undefined "non-notable things" and disregarding the fact a major newspaper gave a very thorough in-depth coverage of a major event affecting a metropolitan area of about 3 million people.--Oakshade 19:37, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - This is a reletivly new event to the area but it does show four past years hits in Google in magazines from across the country.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Exit2DOS2000 (talk • contribs) 16:12, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - unless some properly independent sources can be found. It's easy to fall into the trap that "many sources = notability".  But this can overestimate the notability of commercial entities that employ PR people to place stories in the press - and this is particularly true of one-off events whose commercial success relies on creating a 'buzz' in their local area. So I'd be particularly wary of sources for this article from California, and in the run-up to the event (ie October/November). Don't forget the first criterion of WP:NOT - Independence of the sources from the subject.  This is not true of even 1000-word newspaper articles that just rehash corporate press releases. In fact for this kind of event I'd almost put more  weight on directory listings as long as they showed some kind of genuinely independent editorial judgement being made.  So for instance I'd be really impressed if it was in a list in Le Monde or the Sydney Morning Herald of "The Top 10 Food Festivals In The World" - in fact that kind of thing might even make it a Mid rather than a Low. Conversely I would put no weight on an LA Times list of "All food festivals in California". My feeling is that this is probably unnotable, but am prepared to change my mind if people can find multiple, genuinely independent references within the next week or two.  That San Diego Union-Tribune piece is definitely not one such, it reads as little better than advertorial. FlagSteward 13:14, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. The event appears to be mildly notable, or notable enough to include.   Bur nt sau ce  21:48, 26 September 2007 (UTC)


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