Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/San Diego Center for Spiritual Living


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The result was delete. --Core desat 04:10, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

San Diego Center for Spiritual Living

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Questionable notability, written in an advertising tone (e.g. "CHANGE YOUR THINKING, CHANGE YOUR LIFE"), only sources are their website and other Wikipedia articles Rackabello 20:50, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as nominator Rackabello 20:56, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * No need to cast an extra delete vote, your nomination constitutes as such. =^^= -- Dennis The Tiger  (Rawr and stuff) 20:58, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong delete. Per the nom, it feels really spammy and is written with a COI flavor. -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff) 20:58, 21 June 2007 (UTC)


 * KEEP. remove the Change your thinking change your life, because that is a bit spammy. However, the article is based on examples of others within wikipedia, which is why it also references other articles in wikipedia. Additional necessary references for the material contained in the article are being added. Cookcorec 21:19, 21 June 2007 (UTC) C. Cook-Core 6/21/07 — Cookcorec (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment This group was originally the "Downtown Community Church" It's said to be part of "United Centers for Spiritual Living" aka "United Church of Religious Science" whose main article is Religious ScienceDGG 23:23, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Then it begs the question: is this individual church notable? Apparently, from what I am reading, the answer is "no". -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff) 01:48, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Man, we really need notability guidelines for churches. This could well be notable as churches go, but the only news hits for it are community calendar events, so under general NN requirements it fails. Capmango 01:22, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Religion-related deletions.   -- John Vandenberg 09:49, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletions.   -- John Vandenberg 09:49, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment This church is notable in that it is the first Religious Science church to incorporate ministers from all three major Religious Science organizations, UCRS, RSI, and ANTN as practicing ministers at the same time. The three organizations have been in discussion on how to merge the teaching and educational requirements for several years, and this church is the precurser to that end result. It is also one of the very few churches/centers in a highly urban setting. It is part of the City of San Diego revitalization program to bring families back to the city. Dr. Gordon Bishop, who founded the church, was the President of both NewSchool of Architecture and Holmes Institute for Consciousness Studies at the time. Holmes Institute is the seminary for Religious Science Ministers through UCRS/UCSL. It became an accredited institution through his direct efforts based on his vast experience with state and private schools. This church is also notable in that it brings world-renown metaphysical leaders and teachers to the City of San Diego. This church is active in community outreach to the downtown area, where million-dollar condos and wealthy residents live side-by-side with rampant homelessness and poverty. It is an educational center where no one is turned away for their personal belief system. Should that information have been included in the article? C. Cook-Core 26 June 2007.
 * Delete I see no reason why this article (that reads like a brochure) should be included. No external sources are presented to show that this church is notable per WP:ORG. Maybe a paragraph about this church could go in an article on Gordon Bishop (who may meet WP:BIO)... &mdash; Scientizzle 19:39, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
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