Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sand Canyon, Kern County, California


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Bungle (talk • contribs) 18:18, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Sand Canyon, Kern County, California

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Looking at the topos, they show part of a mining district which at some times shows some scattered buildings; later maps show a different name, Loraine, close by, and "Sand Canyon" as a label disappears. (FWIW Loraine on the earlier maps is located a bit to the west.) My sense is of a fairly vague locale served by a post office that moved around and had its name changed, though I can't prove that. What I do see is that searching hardly brings up anything except name drops and false hits. From what I can see it fails verification. Mangoe (talk) 13:52, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 13:54, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 13:54, 29 January 2021 (UTC)


 * note I've clarified how Loraine figures in this above. I haven't nominated it for now because, on the ground, it looks a little like a town, but from a documentation PoV it's not clear that it's a notable settlement. Mangoe (talk) 21:48, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment Loraine lies within the Loraine Mining District. The Loraine Mining District includes a canyon, which was once / is called "Sand Canyon." Go see;


 * 1. Wilkerson, Gregg. "Geology and Mining of the Kern County, Lake Isabella and Walker Basin, Kern County California". - page 132-134, 147
 * 2. Troxel, Bonnie W. and Morton, Paul K., 1962, Mines and Mineral Resources of Kern County, California: California. Division of Mines and Geology, County Report 1.
 * 3. Juan Dos Mines, Loraine, Loraine Mining District, Kern Co., California.
 * 4. Bella Rufin Mine, Twin Oaks, Loraine Mining District, Kern Co., California. Paul H. (talk) 21:56, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 15:42, 5 February 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: To discuss the sources noted above

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,      StarM 16:59, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep for now. I don't think this is a hoax, but an unincorporated community. Google maps seems to have a "Sand Canyon road" near the "Twin Oaks Community Church". I found this link which says Unincorporated communities of Bird Springs, Horse Canyon, Loraine, Sand Canyon and Twin Oaks. If I check the USGS, there is a populated place and a valley (roughly lying alongside the Sand Canyon road I can see on Google maps). I am inclined to keep it.--DreamLinker (talk) 14:52, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. Based on others' comments and sources, it is apparently a settlement.  Also, by the way, it is helpful to differentiate this vs. another notable Sand Canyon in California.  The notability of both of them was discussed somewhat in Articles for deletion/Sand Canyon, Los Angeles County, California (which closed with keeping of the other one).  Enough AFDs about the Sand Canyons for now, please. --Doncram (talk) 02:01, 19 February 2021 (UTC)


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