Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sandile Mahlangu


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The result was no consensus. Seems like the consensus is that GNG is not met - the keep arguments on that point are vague - so NACTOR is the only guideline that could justify the inclusion (under WP:N a topic can meet either to allow for inclusion). It seems like there is reasoned disagreement about whether the NACTOR guideline is met, as they have starred in several notable works but they are not necessarily well covered. I don't see a policy-based reason for preferring one side of that argument over the other, so this is a no consensus. With respect to Too soon, that's an essay, so it would not necessarily override NACTOR based arguments. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 07:08, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Sandile Mahlangu

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WP:TOOSOON Coverage does not meet WP:GNG. I searched his name in DuckDuckGo and Google, and found nothing of substance. I don't think the filmography claimed in the article meets WP:NACTOR.

Evaluation of the sources provided: The rest of the sources are mere mentions signed,Rosguill talk 04:18, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * 1) is an interview on a local news site.
 * 2) is an ok amount of coverage, but the source is unreliable per the disclosure on the source's terms and conditions page saying thebar makes no representations or warranties, whether express, implied in law or residual, as to the accuracy, completeness and/or reliability of any information, data and/or content contained on the website.
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. signed,Rosguill talk 04:18, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. signed,Rosguill talk 04:18, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
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 * Keep: subject has played significant lead roles on two television series that air on notable TV channels, , , , , view and has played lead on a film alongside Vuyo Dabula, Deon Lotz, and Anriette Van Rooyen . Has been featured on a radio show Touch HD. Passes WP:NACTOR #1 Ceethekreator (talk) 09:44, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , that guideline says multiple notable films, television shows.... From my count, you've mentioned two TV series and one movie, which means that even if each of them were notable (which does not appear to be the case) we'd be barely scraping the guideline. signed,Rosguill talk 03:15, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * What makes a TV show/Film notable?. Please see WP:PW/NTV/WP:NTV. The Television shows are clearly notable per the WP:PW/NTV /WP:NTV guidelines. All the TV shows mentioned air on national television channels, SABC 1, Mzansi Magic and e.tv. Ceethekreator (talk)
 * Notability is demonstrated first and foremost by coverage in reliable sources. At any rate, looking at the article, I see three roles that at a glance look significant, one of which hasn't been released yet. This is a case of TOOSOON. If Mahlangu stars in an additional film or two, then I think NACTOR #1 will be more clearly satisfied. signed,Rosguill talk 17:05, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * WP:Entertainer #1 is satisfied for "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions", apart from the Television shows and film. The subject has also been featured in several major TV commercials. (KFC, Debonairs Pizza, Halls, Sunbet International, Cell C and Stimorol). Ceethekreator (talk) 15:09, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep: The subject is a well-known actor in South Africa, playing on major television channels. A quick Google search did reveal several credible news sources discussing the subject and his roles. Ash Glover (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:08, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , could you share some examples? I have no intention of arguing for deletion if there's RS coverage lying around, but I genuinely could not find any when I searched online. signed,Rosguill talk 03:16, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as per the nominator. I checked out the sources and they unfortunately are mostly passing mentions and/or local or puff pieces and nothing shows that he meets WP:NACTOR yet. This is a case of WP:TOOSOON I feel. --Dom from Paris (talk) 09:58, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:56, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nom. I checked out the sources are unreliable, I think this is a case of WP:TOOSOON- --MA Javadi (talk) 18:51, 16 June 2019 (UTC)


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