Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sandra Navidi


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. The consensus is that the links provided by user:Whytestone demonstrate sufficient coverage for notability. Thryduulf (talk) 15:57, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Sandra Navidi

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Basically a resume, but Wikipedia is not a vehicle for self-promotion. Main article contributor User:Whytestone is a single-purpose account. bender235 (talk) 11:23, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete Article's content does not include items which meet Wikipedia's notability criteria. The links are casual mentions of this person, and not content focused on this person.  Blue Rasberry    (talk)   14:42, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 * There is more talk with the creator on my talk page.  Blue Rasberry    (talk)   11:20, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Article creator user:Whytestone has pointed out below in this AfD discussion that reliable sources have featured the subject of this article as the subject of their journalism. This coverage constitutes the meeting of WP:NBIO because this person has been the subject of multiple third-party publications. The article still uses some sources which are financially tied to this article's subject, but I am satisfied that several good sources exist.   Blue Rasberry    (talk)   20:50, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:33, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:33, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
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 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, KTC (talk) 20:21, 5 April 2013 (UTC)




 * Weak keep. Delete (without prejudice for future). The subject of the article may very well meet Wikipedia's notability criteria in the future, but does not appear to do so at present. The references which might appear to indicate notability are mainly brief mentions, for instance the reference to the usual acknowledgements in a book listing all the people the author would like to thank. This is mainly counter-productive; it would be easier to check notability if all the minor references and peacockery were removed. --Boson (talk) 23:20, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I have changed my opinion to "weak keep". Though I don't think the subject clearly satisfies WP:GNG, in that the person has not obviously "received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject", I think there is borderline justification for applying WP:Academic (". . . may also work outside academia (e.g., in industry, financial sector, government, as a clinical physician, as a practicing lawyer, etc.) and their primary job does not have to be academic in nature . . ." and "the person is frequently quoted in conventional media as an academic expert in a particular area"). She has clearly been frequently interviewed on television etc. in her capacity as an expert. With the promotional elements removed, I think the encyclopedia benefits from having an article on this person; so I think there is a case for interpreting the rules generously. --Boson (talk) 23:51, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, KTC (talk) 10:59, 14 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete it's simply a curriculum of a person who appeared sometimes on TV. --Vituzzu (talk) 11:53, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete This Wikipedia article is specifically mentioned in this piece with the subject implicitly labelled as a self-promoter. Important notability claims remain unsourced in the article, for example:
 * - one reference to an AXA roadshow where she was a guest speaker
 * - no reference
 * - Unreferenced list of television appearances linked only to channels
 * The only sourced notability claim is to appearing on Wall Street Warriors, a programme formerly broadcast on "Mojo HD". It seems she appeared in up to 6 episodes in 2006. The source given with the 2012 appearance is just a page with an embedded YouTube video. It's difficult to judge the reliability of these two German sources but there's certainly not significant coverage of the subject. The Career section is pure puffery.
 * Of course, lack of sources isn't a reason for deletion but the subject clearly has not recieved significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject, thus failing WP:BIO. The academic claim above is not applicable, per the subject not meeting any of the criteria of WP:PROF, or making any claim of research or academic credentials. I urge the creator to review WP:NOTPROMOTION  Jebus989 ✰ 15:47, 17 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete, hardly know the person. 108.12.134.72 (talk) 16:36, 19 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep I just reviewed the notability criteria for biographies.  One acceptable criteria is that "A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has been the subject of multiple published secondary sources which are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject".  I have these sources which are directly about Navidi.  Here are three examples (taken from the External links section)
 * DLDwomen Magazine at issuu.com
 * Interview by Larry Parks (Larry Parks bio on page 3)
 * Der Westen - Die Schöne und das Geld (German)


 * On the adjoining talk page I elaborated more fully on the specific concerns voiced by other Wikipedians on this page, and answered the concerns they've raised.. Whytestone (talk) 17:07, 20 April 2013 (UTC) — Whytestone (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Keep, per links supplied by User:Whytestone. Good enough to get her over the WP:GNG line in my opinion.  Lankiveil (speak to me) 09:24, 23 April 2013 (UTC).
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.