Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sandy Hoffmann


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The result was   no consensus. Stifle (talk) 08:28, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Sandy Hoffmann

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Non-notable figure skater, fails WP:V. At age 15, she's never even competed in senior nationals, which means she fails the WP:ATHLETE criterion of competing at the "highest level of amateur sport." With only 24 unique G-hits, almost exclusively Wiki mirrors and figure skating websites, there are no reliable sources evident that would fulfill the general notability criteria. Prod removed by creator without comment.  RGTraynor  16:25, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep meets the general notability guidelines with significant coverage in Sachsische Zeitung one of Dresden's two major newspapers, ,,and . RMHED (talk) 20:50, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Response: The first article is two paragraphs long. The second is an article on that particular competition; Hoffmann is not the subject.  The third is an article on a show by a local ice skating club, and Hoffman's sole presence in the article is that the photo accompanying it has her in it.  The final link is another article concerning another competition in which she appeared.  All are trivial mentions.  Did you read through all of them first?    RGTraynor  21:04, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I would say that two paragraphs in a major regional newspaper combined with the other mentions is enough to meet the general notability guidelines. RMHED (talk) 21:42, 10 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:00, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. I concur with User:RMHED. The subject meets the general notability guidelines per guidelines for notability (persons). One cannot expect The Washington Post to do an in-depth reprt on iceskating. The sources pointed out by User:RMHED are reliable sources independent of the event.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 01:32, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * One can indeed expect the Post to do indepth bios on individual figure skaters, something that happens frequently, but beyond that, the answer to the frequently-asked question on Wikipedia "But no one's writing substantive articles in the mainstream media about my subject!!" is "Then WP:V dictates the subject does not merit an article."  RGTraynor  16:43, 14 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions.   -- the wub  "?!"  11:41, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete The sources are about the event, not the individual, which means they fail the need to be non-trivial. -Djsasso (talk) 15:48, 14 October 2008 (UTC)


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