Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sandy Thorburn


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Consensus is that WP:BLP is appropriate here and WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE can be honoured; however this means, obviously, that all coverage of Thorburn, positive and negative, will be removed. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  00:15, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Sandy Thorburn

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I am neutral. started the nomination but did not create this page. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 20:02, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

made the following edit summary in this diff: "The page Sandy Thorburn has been used by malicious editors to disparage my name and to attempt to malign me over a period of many months. I would humbly request that it be removed to avoid this, and allow me to live my life quietly."


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 20:06, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ontario-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 20:07, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 20:17, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 20:17, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * He was certainly convicted. Note that he had a WP page years before he was arrested. The page was never brought to AfD in the years before the arrest.  If it had been, it is not clear whether he would have scrapped past, his notability lay in producing musicals at the Thousand Islands Playhouse, but after running some searches, I doubt it.  He seems rather full of himself and, looking at the edit record on his page, he appears to have created and maintained it himself - or someone very close to him did. We could, in other words, delete this one if we choose.E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:25, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete. While I do not see other editors disparaging the BLP, there was a BLP issue in one edit. As for the merits of the subject as an article - it is weakish or borderline on all counts. I don't see how he passes PROF. He does seem to be a director of some note, however he doesn't seem to rise up to the bar set in WP:DIRECTOR. It does not seem to be a GNG pass. The crime itself (which involved teens - seems however that in Canadian law these are treated the same as children) has some national level coverage - but is borderline in terms of notability. I could be swayed to flip my !vote - this is a close call, and there are a number of possible avenues of notability here (the director and crime angle being the obvious ones).Icewhiz (talk) 12:47, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. The profile appeared to meet WP:BIO previous to his child pornography events. Ifnord (talk) 17:43, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TonyBallioni (talk) 20:36, 31 July 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Relist, potentially including further discussion on whether notability was established prior to crime/event notability
 * Keep Passes WP:ANYBIO.It is combination of his being a composer, a director ,teaching in leading Canadian Universities including  University of Waterloo ,Lakehead University , University of Toronto amongst others  and being convicted adequate coverage about the subject to pass WP:GNG.Note the article was created in 2006 way before the conviction and see no BLP violation as the subject has been convicted and passes WP:WELLKNOWN. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 08:21, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as WP:BLP1E, a minor composer and offender, with most coverage concerning his crime, thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 16:40, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nosebagbear (talk) 11:42, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as very clearly violative of WP:BLP, intended primarily to do harm as the person is not otherwise "notable." Collect (talk) 14:19, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * weak delete, claim to notability before the crime was marginal, at best, and was clearly self PROMO that would probably have been deleted if it has come to AfD back then.  crime itself got some coverage, but not much, and  there has been  no policy impact.E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:05, 13 August 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.