Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sanela Sijerčić


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 10:18, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Sanela Sijerčić

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Unable to find coverage in any reliable sources to verify the claims of the article. The external link in the article leads to Walmart spam. J04n(talk page) 01:48, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  — J04n(talk page) 01:48, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bosnia-related deletion discussions.  — J04n(talk page) 01:48, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete unsourced BLP. Tagged for over a year.--v/r - TP 01:53, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: The Walmart spam was added on  12 June 2007 by  User:84.217.86.213, and has now been removed. --Kudpung (talk) 02:16, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * It wasn't redirect spam in 2007, I bet, it was her official domain URL at the time.--Milowent • talkblp-r 05:19, 19 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - Fails WP:BAND. The only source I can find is this one. It suggests that  the subject  has left  the music industry  and is long  since forgotten. The source is not reliable, and does not assert notability. Coverage is not  'significant'. --Kudpung (talk) 02:25, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep: Eastern european pop singers often have sourcing out there that takes some digging to find. The Svet article (svet is a weekly mag published by Color Press Group) says she was one of the biggest Bosnian singers.  Here's another piece from the same publication in 2010 about her recent divorce.  And here's a third article from 2009  (google typically has not spidered the full archives of eastern european papers, so you have to search the publications internally to find additional cites.)--Milowent • talkblp-r  05:18, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Does an article about her divorce contribute to any  notability  that  she might  have as a singer that is the reason why  we should keep this article? I  don't  think  it does.Kudpung (talk) 05:35, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Not by itself, but when you start seeing articles like that, its almost always the case that the person is covered like a tabloid celebrity in their own country. We had a similar situation with Andrea (Bulgarian singer) when it was prodded last year.--Milowent • talkblp-r  14:14, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Further examples of that type of coverage (in Bosnian publication Weekend, April 28, 2010, an article about what she cooks for her husband, a celebrity cooking fluff piece); and  (gossip report from November 2010 in Dnevni Avaz (major bosnian daily) that she had an altercation with a work colleague);  (another Weekend piece from November 2009 about the 2nd marriage, undercurrent rumor of article is ooh maybe she converted to islam for her husband);  (August 2010 piece in Weekend includes her among three bosnian celebs with their healthy living tips);  (December 2009 piece in Ljiljan saying she has "recently retired" from music.  She wouldn't get all this coverage unless she was already a well-known celebrity.  It appears her biggest hit songs probably date back to about 2000, and I am having trouble finding online sourcing from that time.  Not shocking for Bosnia.--Milowent • talkblp-r  15:03, 20 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment: The claims to notability in the article are that she received a "Folk Oscar" and has been named the "Female singer of the year", do we have verification in a reliable source about either of these or anything else notable? If so I will happily withdraw my nomination, otherwise we have an unreferenced BLP. J04n(talk page)
 * It won't be an unreferenced keep outcome, that's for sure, based on the source i've found already. Trying to figure out the Serbo-Croatian / Bosniak search terms for those claims.--Milowent • talkblp-r  16:46, 20 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Note: Unreferenced BLP Rescue was notified of this debate. J04n(talk page) 16:29, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Note:' WP:WikiProject Bosnia and Herzegovina was poked for assistance in regard to this debate. --  j &#9883; e decker  talk  18:43, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 21:12, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - The articles found by Milowent are indicative of notability. As for the specific claims int he article that cannot be sourced, they can be tagged as unreferenced as they are not really derogatory.  If there is a feeling that they are untrue or dubious, it can be removed and a note left on the article talk page about the unsourced claims. -- Whpq (talk) 17:58, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.