Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sanki King


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. This looks fairly valid. Not enough discussion yet, no prejudice against speedy renomination. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:03, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Sanki King

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This article was dePRODed - Concern was: ''Article on an artist that does not indicate that the subject of the article is important or significant. The references provided are not reliable per WP:RS and fail to assert notability for a creative professional at WP:ARTIST.'', and has since been blanked several times by the creator. WP:G7 (author blanked) does not apply  since other editors have contributed, albeit  maintenance work, and some minor contribs by an IP. The only references of depth are a blog by  a fee-lance journalist,  and The news.com which  probably do not satisfy  WP:RS and WP:ARTIST in  number and depth. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:39, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  — TheSpecialUser  ( TSU ) 14:38, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

  The story in the Gulf News is not a blog, its an article which was published in The Gulf News newspaper, and the writer is a freelance British journalist, she is not from Islamabad, that was an error made by the website editor. Also, on 22nd of July there will be a feature story getting published about the hip hop culture in Pakistan in express tribune magazine, and Sanki King is one of the main characters of that story, plus the writer of the story is the same journalist who wrote the Gulf News story. It is my humble request that you do not delete Sanki King until that story is published so you can read the story by yourself. I have recently added references to the article, please check them as soon as possible. Thanks,  — SameStruggle  undefined 09:59, 18 July 2012 (UTC) 
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2012 July 11.  Snotbot   t &bull; c &raquo;  14:53, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BusterD (talk) 16:18, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

 My article did not have any references before, because honestly I did not know how to use references, but I have taught myself through the Help option of Wikipedia that how can I use references, so I have added 14 references now. Kindly check those references personally and if you find any inappropriate links then delete them because you people surely have a better understanding of references. I will be really looking forward to a reply from someone. Thanks,  — SameStruggle  undefined 02:56, 19 July 2012 (UTC)


 *  'We people'  are the same as you: people among the many who contribute to the Wikipedia as volunteers. That said, 'we' have done what you requested and checked out all the links - somethingyou could have done yourself by comparing them with Wikipedia's criteria for WP:Reliable sources and Wikipedia's criteria for Biographies of Living people  and Wikipedia's criteria for people connected with  The Music Industry and other forms of The Entertainment Industry. The links to  Wikipedia criteria were provided for you  in  the welcome message that  was placed on  your talk  page over a year and a half  ago.
 * Unfortunately, rather than asserting notability, the sources provided apparently suggest even more reasons why the article does not meet Wikipedia standards at least for the time being. Note that the encyclopedia also does not speculate on possible future notability.
 * With all due respect for the time you have spent creating the article, and without predjudice to any  WP:Reliable Sources that may appear in the future, I suggest speedy deletion per WP:A7, WP:G11, and any other criteria that may apply.


 * http://www.pakhiphop.com/2010/10/sanki-king-explains-pakistans-graffiti.html : blog


 * http://www.fashioncentral.pk/blog/2012/03/02/actone-accuses-lush-productions/hazan-d-dj-hussain-asma-ansari-zain-ahmed-natasha-sanki-king/#.UAiO0XDoAlZ : online clothing and fashion  accessory store


 * http://www.danka.pk/?var_action=event_details&event_id=15576 : a fleeting entry/advert  for a talk by  Sanki  King; no  biographical  content  whatsoever


 * http://www.pakhiphop.com/2011/02/graffiti-in-pakistan-king-by-sanki-king.html : blog. Same source web site already used


 * http://blog.aag.tv/blogs/2012/06/1794/ blog. Content self-authored by Sanki King


 * http://tribune.com.pk/story/255354/eight-teams-battle-it-out-at-pakistans-first-break-dancing-tournament/ : A reliable source but no mention  whatsoiever of Sanki  King


 * http://www.fashioncentral.pk/blog/2012/03/02/actone-accuses-lush-productions/bboy-smuffy-from-the-unknown-crew/#.UAiO9nDoAlZ : another page from the online fashion store. No  mention  of Sanki King


 * https://plus.google.com/up/start/?gpsls=circles&continue=https://plus.google.com/circles&hl=en} : a Google page. Apparently no  relevance whatsoever.


 * http://www.issuu.com/the5thelementmag/docs/issuethree?mode=window&pageNumber=25 : No relevance whatsoever


 * http://www.issuu.com/the5thelementmag/docs/issuethree?mode=window&pageNumber=26 : extremely brief mention. Not  entirely  sure if this is even a realiable source.


 * http://actone.pk/ : a purely commercial  site promoting  a company  or organiation. No  mention  of Sanki  King


 * http://www.danka.pk/?var_action=event_details&event_id=15903 : An events calendar. Page has no mention  of Sanki  King


 * http://cityfm89.com/newspost/actone-planet-bboy-2012 : An events calendar. or an advert for an event.  Page has no  mention  of Sanki  King.


 * http://www.frequency.com/video/new-promo-of-th/33052463 : An events calendar. or an advert for an event.  Apart  from  a promotional  link  to  a YouTube item the page has no  mention  of Sanki  King.


 * http://www.parkourgenerations.com/news/parkour-pakistan-article : No mention  of Sanki  King.


 * Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:33, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

 Hey man thanks for this brief reply. Now I know exactly how this references thing works. I will come back very soon with reliable and authentic sources for the Sanki King article. Thanks for your time.  — SameStruggle  undefined 01:53, 21 July 2012 (UTC)


 * http://www.parkourgenerations.com/news/debrief-pkgen-questionssanki-king
 * http://gulfnews.com/news/world/pakistan/parkour-in-pakistan-1.1030509
 * http://e.jang.com.pk/06-04-2012/karachi/pic.asp?picname=1020.jpg
 * http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-2-112379-Pakistani-embraces-fame-in-Gulf-for-his-Parkour-excellence

And what about these? These 4 are authentic references, and the Gulf News story is Not a Blog. At least how many sources like these are needed to keep an article in Wikipedia?  — SameStruggle  undefined 2:05, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete interviews and reheated interviews are not independent. I can't read arabic but since the rest of the refs aren't indepednent, I have reasonably strong doubts. Stuartyeates (talk) 23:17, 20 July 2012 (UTC)


 * What do you mean by "delete interviews" "references aren't independent" and "reheated interviews"? And that external link is not in Arabic it's in Urdu, national language of Pakistan. And Jang News is the largest Urdu Newspaper network in Pakistan. — SameStruggle  undefined 5:16, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I think he means ' Delete: Interviews and reheated interviews are not independent. ' Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:20, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

 — SameStruggle  undefined 11:31, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The story I was talking about is here, this is the cover story of Tribune Magazine, 22nd July 2012, about the rise of Hip Hop Culture in Pakistan. Includes a famous Pakistani rapper, first B-girl in Pakistan and Sanki King with pictures http://tribune.com.pk/story/409946/street-smart. I also managed to find this story from the archives of express tribune newspaper which clearly mentions Sanki and his real name http://tribune.com.pk/story/211357/cant-touch-this-step-up-to-the-streets-of-karachi
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