Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Santa Clara County Expressway System


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. There appears to be POV problems on both side of the debate from what I can see, as well as possible sockpuppetry on both sides; however the consensus appears to be to delete the article, as a subject which does not meet notability/NPOV criteria --  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 02:12, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Santa Clara County Expressway System

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WP:OR. See discussion on a similar "network" Bakersfield Freeway Network which was recently deleted. While there are roads and freeways in Santa Clara County, there is no seperate system than the normal California Interstate, State Route and County Route system. Admrboltz (talk) 21:50, 6 December 2010 (UTC) *Delete I have to agree that the article needs to be almost completely rewritten. Completely non-encyclopedic tone and full of POV, original research and unreferenced commentary. --Kumioko (talk) 22:01, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. The article's tone and recent comments on the talk page betray a non-NPOV issue to the article as well.  Imzadi  1979   →  21:52, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete reads like an essay, also WP:NOT a travel guide. --Rschen7754 21:55, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Due to recent events I am going to abstain from this and therefore I have stricken my comment. --Kumioko (talk) 15:10, 7 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Rename and rewrite to Expressways in Santa Clara County, California. Article has serious POV issues, yes, but could be rewritten to be more neutral and provide an excellent overview of the subject. - The Bushranger Return fire Flank speed 22:08, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 * A subject that has questionable notability. --Rschen7754 22:09, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. It looks like there is an official "system": http://www.sccgov.org/rda/expressways2/default.htm http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Asccgov.org+expressway+system But even if not, renaming to Expressways in Santa Clara County, California should take care of scope issues. --NE2 22:10, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Condense information and merge into the Santa Clara County, California.  Dough 48  72  22:50, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 * But then why does Santa Clara get its own article for its expressways while the other counties don't? --Rschen7754 05:30, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * It appears these roads have some importance to the county's infrastructure that can warrant a brief mention in the main county article. Another option would be to redirect to California County Routes in zone G as all these expressways are county routes in that zone.  Dough 48  72  04:15, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep There is an official "Expressway System". The phrase is not only used repeatedly in the master plan of the County (see reference 1) but this entity was also created and used in State law (see last two references). There is related history among this group of roads. There may have been a misunderstanding about POV that I already corrected (see "Tone" near bottom of Discussion). --AkosSzoboszlay (talk) 23:33, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment appears to havea COI -  --Admrboltz (talk) 23:41, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 * That's not really a useful response to his pointing out (correctly) that your deletion nomination is incorrect. --NE2 00:43, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions.  -- Jclemens-public (talk) 02:14, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions.  -- Jclemens-public (talk) 02:14, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per NE2. --Arxiloxos (talk) 03:29, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per NE2. --Ffquotes 9 December 2010 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ffquotes (talk • contribs)  — Ffquotes (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * First post by this account, ban/lock/trash. --NE2 19:01, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
 * How about we don't bite a newbie who may be playing "monkey see, monkey do" for his first edit, just in case that smell of sock is just the clothes dryer getting indigestion? - The Bushranger One ping only 19:59, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Keep this article. I think the site needed context development. That appears to have occurred. As City of San Jose is seeking to make all its streets and roads more "complete" it was important to see some of the history that allowed peds and bikes to begin using the expressway facilities. Perhaps a few balancing edits will help the article appear more in the tone of encyclopedic. After reading the current article, I do not find any part offensive, misleading or subjective. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trafengr56 (talk • contribs) 05:23, 10 December 2010 (UTC) This is the user's first edit. --Rschen7754 05:29, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete, with much regret. Although I contributed most of the original text and photographs to this article, I am saddened to see that it has been taken over by User:AkosSzoboszlay, an pro-bicycle extremist, as a vehicle for propounding his bizarre views.  It is because of Wikipedia's abject failure to deal with such extremists that I have severely restricted my further contributions, along with many other experienced editors.  I also recommend that User:AkosSzoboszlay be irrevocably banned from the Wikipedia project immediately for egregious violations of core policies WP:NPOV and WP:NOT. I also request that any available administrator initiate a CheckUser investigation against each of the new users who voted on this page to determine if they are sockpuppets of User:AkosSzoboszlay.  --Coolcaesar (talk) 02:49, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
 * See my rebuttal Severe vandalism by Coolcaesar on Discussion page. I also undeleted this vandalism.--AkosSzoboszlay (talk) 22:21, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I severely restricted my further contributions in part because of people who use hammers to swat flies. --NE2 23:23, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.