Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sanzhar Sultanov


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The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 05:59, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Sanzhar Sultanov

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Contested PROD. COI concerns; sourcing comes from mostly non-notable sites (one article purported to be from Time, though I can't read it to verify, and it doesn't look like Time). Note that the bluelink for his film leads to the story, not the subject's film. Glass  Cobra  14:00, 30 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment I checked the Time magazine in question and although my cyrillic skills are limited, I will say that it is a Kazakhstanian internet website called "Time", that I am sure of. Now, I also vouch it has nothing to do with the US Time magazine. What kind of a website exactly it is and how reliable of a source it is remains to be discovered... Turqoise127 (talk) 21:01, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Interesting, thank you very much for your aid. The article does state that the source in question comes from "Time Magazine," so whether it's simply a similarly named publication, or some other possibility, remains up in the air. Glass  Cobra  22:18, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Stubify and start it over. Every single significant edit to this article has been by the promotion company for Mr. Sultanov's movie (see User talk:Reverson Entertainment.) --jpgordon:==( o ) 05:13, 1 October 2009 (UTC)


 * The website www.time.kz is the Internet copy of the daily national broadsheet newspaper in Kazakhstan, called "Vremya". The paper produces 3,000,000 copies every publication. The paper has sections devoted to Politics, Finance, and Entertainment. This article was written by Galina Vibornova, who was recently awarded the President's highest honour for contributions to Media.

The article details a short biography of Mr. Sultanov and his recent premier of [Makes The Whole World Kin], starring [Paul Calderon]. The article also announces Mr. Sultanov's upcoming feature film (re: The Story), which has been pre-sold for distribution in Kazakhstan with the title "Nelzya Umeret Darom". The film's cast includes Michael Clarke Duncan and Kelly Hu, with a lead role offered to Harvey Keitel (as written in the article). It also seems that the company's website has become a source of information. The [Facebook] page for this company quotes 176 fans. His networks include [Upper Canada College]. When searched "Sanzhar Sultanov" in google, Upper Canada College web article confirms his education there, and at [Lee Strasberg Theatre and Film Institute]. This information also appears to have made its way to his IMDb page biography. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.114.232.36 (talk) 05:54, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi -- are you "Reverson Entertainment" again? --jpgordon:==( o ) 14:52, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

No, this is Sanzhar's old theatre director from Toronto Youth Theatre. He performed with us in 2005, in Rocky Horror Show. The information that I wrote above is drawn directly from the internet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.34.39.214 (talk) 15:19, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Dear JPGORDON, I wrote the above comment, and you made it look like it was written by user:173.34.39.214 I decided to contribute to this discussion as an independent viewer by researching the credibility of the "www.time.kz" source, which for some reason was not fully researched by any Wikipedia administrators. After I found out all the information on the well respected newspaper, the first thing you say is "Are you Reverson Entertainment?" You then proceeded to changed my IP address to make it seem like I was someone else. I believe, that a wikipedia administrator should concern him/herself with proving the credibility of an article. However, instead of researching the sources for an article, which I ended up doing for you, you seem to be more concerned with disproving the credibility of the article. Please explain these personal attacks.
 * Um, the comment was written by User:173.34.39.214, and then you deleted it and re-entered it under this IP. Not sure why you wanted to pretend otherwise, but please don't lie and then accuse others of misbehavior. --jpgordon:==( o ) 15:59, 5 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete Has not yet made a notable film. The one film he did make is a 20 min short, a/c IMDb, which is reliable for something like that. The COI of some of the people above is self-declared.    DGG ( talk ) 05:36, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
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