Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sarada Uchiha


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of Naruto characters. Sockpuppet comments discounted (non-admin closure)  Satellizer el Bridget (Talk)  00:21, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Sarada Uchiha

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Contested redirect by article creator,. The subject has not received significant coverage by reliable, third party sources, thereby does not pass WP:NOTE. The article does not even cite a single third party source, but is derived entirely on primary source. It is also nothing more than a plot summary and provides no real world context or commentary, which violates WP:NOTPLOT. —Farix (t &#124; c) 20:29, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. --—Farix (t &#124; c) 20:30, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. --—Farix (t &#124; c) 20:30, 9 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Redirect to List of Naruto characters Non-notable character to warrant a separate article. That she is listed in List of Naruto characters with a decent paragraph is sufficient. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:35, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect per AngusWOOF and Farix; non-notable fictional character. Opencooper (talk) 20:44, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep; this character was important enough to have an entire sequel for herself and is the daughter of two of the main characters. Also, the article needs, indeed, some improvement, but this is why we're here - to help. --Onyx-Soul (talk) 21:27, 9 May 2016 (UTC) — Onyx-Soul (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. User has been confirmed as a sockpuppetet of White-Black-Kitten. -—Farix (t &#124; c) 18:06, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect Sadly the article fails WP:Notability Onyx, However, the manga doesn't count Onyx but instead the use of third party. In some years, if the Boruto manga is reviewed and Sarada is variously referenced in some of them I would gladly help to make it.Tintor2 (talk) 21:44, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep => Sarada is actually a notable character and, considering that smaller characters such as Shikamaru or Lee do have Wikipedia pages, she should have one, too. Unlike Shikamaru and Lee, she was the protagonist of an entire story and still is one of the main characters of a movie and of another series (the Boruto one). --Loladin9 (talk) 21:54, 9 May 2016 (UTC) — Loladin9 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.  User has been confirmed as a sockpuppetet of White-Black-Kitten. -—Farix (t &#124; c) 18:06, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment Fictional characters aren't considered notable based on their importance in the work of fiction, but based on the real world relevance which can be cited through reliable, third-party sources. If you actually look at the articles on Shikamaru Nara or Rock Lee, you will see that their notability is backed up by such source and their articles aren't mere plot summaries. But this article doesn't have a single one and is nothing but a plot summary. —Farix (t &#124; c) 22:01, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment This obviously is a new article and yes, it, indeed, does need improvements. But this is what Wikipedia is for. We are all here to help and contribute to articles in order to make them better. And I think the starting of this particular page is quite promising. --Loladin9 (talk) 22:08, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * It's not promising, it's just a very long plot summary. That doesn't make for a good article.SephyTheThird (talk) 22:57, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Agreed with Sephy, the problem with a long plot is that it can to the point that unless you have seen the show you will not understand it. Keep the plot simple for starters, and let the reader have their own experience with the character. In order for potential to be at hand, you need to provide some sources that show how this character has been received outside of the fan-base. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:30, 10 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep I could help improve this article by adding several facts regarding Sarada's creation and conception. All of them are supported by Masashi Kishimoto's interviews. All I need to do is find the links to those particular interviews. --00ForeverMore00 (talk) 22:03, 9 May 2016 (UTC) — 00ForeverMore00 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.  User has been confirmed as a sockpuppetet of White-Black-Kitten. -—Farix (t &#124; c) 18:06, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Creation from WP:reliable sources to add realworld information is good but what is more important is creating a reception section to pass WP:Notability.Tintor2 (talk) 22:50, 9 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Redirect Too soon. Article notability is not determined by fans views on notability or importance but coverage in reliable third party sources. There is certainly coverage about the character, but there isn't sufficient commentary by accepted experts. As the article stands it is just excessive plot summary.SephyTheThird (talk) 22:57, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect I encourage the creator to look at Sakura Haruno, or Gaara then at the "Reception" sections. This is what this article needs that it doesn't have. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 00:31, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note to closing admin I this is made into a redirect it may need to be protected, Naruto does have a large fan-base. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 00:33, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment If it has a slight chance of having some decent notability, should it be moved to Draft? That will give folks a chance to work on it until it meets standards. This means finding some decent sources that talk about the character. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 01:30, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't mind that as a redirect either way will preserve the article's history. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 02:26, 10 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep There are a lot of interviews regarding Sarada and, thus, a lot of information about her could be found. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chokolane (talk • contribs) 04:35, 10 May 2016 (UTC)  — Chokolane (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.   User has been confirmed as a sockpuppetet of White-Black-Kitten. -—Farix (t &#124; c) 18:06, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * What interviews? AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 05:44, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment Masashi Kishimoto has given several interviews about Sarada Uchiha, which could be very useful for the Creation field. For example, there is an interview in which he stated that he had intially wanted to make Sarada just like a girl version of Sasuke, but had then thought that she would have been too scary like this, so he had eventually decided to add some of Sakura's elements to her, too. There is also another interview in which he stated that he had decided to add glasses to Sarada's design in order to make her look intellectual. He also stated that he aimed to make Sarada look pretty even when she has her glasses on. The links to the sources for these interviews could easily be found.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chokolane (talk • contribs) 10:47, 10 May 2016 (UTC)  — Chokolane (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * You didn't answer the question. What interviews and where are they published? But they are still not third-party sources, which an article like this requires to meet Wikipedia's baseline for inclusion. —Farix (t &#124; c) 12:04, 10 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment Did someone open a sock drawer? —Farix (t &#124; c) 04:44, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Someone could have linked this to a forum hence the need for protection once this AfD is closed. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:21, 10 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Redirect I'm semi involved here - I assisted initially in attempting to copyedit and improve the article, and attempted to find some sources. I believe we would be hard pressed to find enough reliable third party sources to warrant a standalone article, but would urge the editors to consider improving/adding to List of Naruto characters -- samtar talk or stalk 07:22, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * . Many of the accounts here are ✅ sock puppets. See Sockpuppet investigations/White-Black-Kitten.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:31, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I've went ahead and struck the !votes of all but the first sock. —Farix (t &#124; c) 18:06, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  Satellizer el Bridget  (Talk)  10:29, 14 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Redirect and Lock at best, as there's nothing suggesting its own article and keeping it available is vulnerable to restarting. SwisterTwister   talk  22:52, 16 May 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.