Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Saranac snowshoe visa denial


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  MBisanz  talk 12:35, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Saranac snowshoe visa denial

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One single incident about a non-notable snowshoe competitor that clearly fails WP:NOTNEWS. This is a rehash of the same information that appeared in (mostly local) newspapers. It may be relevant that the article creator has displayed a significant anti-Muslim bias, and it appears to me that this article was created solely to highlight an arrest of a Muslim that was at first denied entry into the United States. In addition, there are serious BLP issues, as the arrested man (now out on bail) denies all the charges and has not been convicted of anything. CrispyGlover (talk) 19:40, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note that this is a WP:BATTLEGROUND AfD; I met User:CrispyGlover about an hour or ago when I pointed out his unusual editing pattern in a highly contested AfD Articles for deletion/Murder of Georgios Tsibouktzakis.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:47, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note that I looked at his edit history after E.M.Gregory (talk) falsely accused me of sockpuppetry, with no evidence, solely because I voted to delete on a different article that he is heavily involved in attempting to keep on Wikipedia, and he attempted to silence me on my talk page with veiled threats. This article stood out as one that was created solely with a particular point of view in mind, and because of the potential BLP issues, I felt that nominating for deletion was the right thing to do. WP:BATTLEGROUND has nothing to do with it, and E.M.Gregory accusing me of that is another attempt to silence any viewpoint that he feels is opposed to his own. CrispyGlover (talk) 19:54, 1 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Note That this case involving a visa denial to a competitive snowshoe athlete came to international attention with the allegation that the Trump administration was denying a visa to an athlete because that athlete was Muslim.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:50, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment This is completely disingenuous; you didn't create the article after the visa was denied, and that story was a mere blip. However, after the arrest of one of the men, you created this article within hours of the story breaking. You also didn't wait for a verdict, and neglected to mention in the article that the arrested man turned down a plea deal that would have let him go home, because he wants to clear his name. The BLP issues here are enormous, and your comments continue to support the view that you had a clear anti-Muslim agenda in creating this article. I would advise other editors to look at the list of articles created by you, and see if they see a pattern. It's rather clear. CrispyGlover (talk) 20:00, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions.E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:16, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. CrispyGlover (talk) 20:23, 1 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Here: is a gNews search arranged by date, to help editors evaluate this.  search terms used: "Tanveer Hussain" + Saranac.  Here is the search on terms: Saranac + Snowshoe + visa, showing international, national and local pre-arrest coverage  E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:47, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. North America1000 09:27, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
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 * Delete as mere news. Srnec (talk) 23:26, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete The Adirondack Daily Enterprise may be tracking this story and there were two bursts of broader coverage for the visa denial and the arrest, but it doesn't seem to have the duration + breadth of coverage to pass notability per WP:EVENT. Eperoton (talk) 02:12, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Redirect I'm willing to accept the opinions of User:Eperoton and User:Srnec, and redirect/ merge this to a single sentence with a couple of sources at Charles Schumer, related to his intervention to obtain the visa denies by the Embassy in Delhi, where the primary notability lies.E.M.Gregory (talk) 02:39, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:29, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:29, 3 May 2017 (UTC)


 * I created a single, sourced sentence at Charles Schumer to which this incident can be redirected and merged.E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:00, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. WP:NOTNEWS, I agree it fails general notability and such. Kamalthebest (talk) 04:40, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Strong delete. This is clearly a fairly minor news event -- how many dozens or hundreds of similar events received local news coverage in the aftermath of the Muslim ban roll-out? There is no evidence of any lasting significance here which would be required to satisfy WP:EVENT. The "Sexual abuse charges" subsection is enormously problematic, and not just for the WP:BLP concerns. If the article is ostensibly about the visa denial event, then this section is entirely superfluous, as it discusses a separate, unrelated event.  A  Train talk 15:23, 6 May 2017 (UTC)


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