Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sarasaland Kingdoms


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The general consensus would seem to be that a redirect is out of place Eddie891 Talk Work 22:06, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Sarasaland Kingdoms
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Under-referenced, fails WP:GNG had a WP:PROD removed with no discussion. (Oinkers42) (talk) 16:39, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. (Oinkers42) (talk) 16:44, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. (Oinkers42) (talk) 16:44, 27 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment The PROD tag was removed by a sockpuppet of the article creator. -- ferret (talk) 18:26, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I suspected that it was a sockpuppet, but I was not certain. (Oinkers42) (talk) 18:28, 27 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete or Redirect to Princess Daisy. Non-notable, fails GNG. WP:VG/RS has only 3 total results for "Sarasaland", "Sarasaland Kingdoms", or other variations I tried. 1 was a misfire, the results were from the comment section. One was a "top 5 characters we'd like to see more of" type list, which mentioned it only in passing in connection to Princess Daisy. The last one was user uploaded fan art tagged on the same site as the one with the comments. There is essentially zero coverage of this kingdom even within the video game focused media. Of the non-primary unreliable sources in the article.... Only two actually mention Sarasaland, and one of those is again in passing to Daisy. -- ferret (talk) 18:42, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - it's a fictional location that's used very sparingly in the franchise. It absolutely does not meet the WP:GNG. I would be absolutely floored if someone found significant coverage that showed independent notability. Sergecross73   msg me  20:20, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - Minor fictional location (it really only was featured in a single game) without the coverage in reliable sources to pass the WP:GNG. I would be against using it as a Redirect, as the term "Sarasaland Kingdoms" is not commonly used at all.  Pretty much every source only refers to it simply as Sarasaland, which already redirects to Super Mario Land, so it is not a particularly useful search term.  Rorshacma (talk) 20:58, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I didn't even check if the shorter redirect existed, good catch. -- ferret (talk) 22:01, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: I had initially typed up a redirect argument, but I agree with Rorshacma that this term is not commonly used and there is already a redirect for Sarasaland. Aoba47 (talk) 22:04, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to Mario_(franchise) where at least it is mentioned, in fact a tiny merge wouldn't be amiss. Now, what do we think about Mushroom_Kingdom? Is it enough? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 05:06, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. Could've been reprodded since the editor has been blocked. Avilich (talk) 11:08, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Fancruft and Wikia-type material. Fails GNG standard.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 12:32, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: Non-notable fancruft which does not belong to an encyclopaedia. I think that a redirect can be considered if it is viable, as I think that the edit history should be saved if possible, but if a redirect is not viable, this should go.  Java Hurricane  16:35, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: No real-world content whatsoever. Cat&#39;s Tuxedo (talk) 22:16, 28 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment - Google Books doesn't seem to show any good quality secondary sources. Google News primarily produces false-positive results from listicles that are clearly either primarily discussing Super Mario Land or Princess Daisy and thus makes assessing available sources somewhat difficult. Google Scholar produces no results. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 16:46, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - per nom. Videogameplayer99 (talk) 00:00, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: topic not independently notable from searches conducted. Kaspadoo (talk) 11:53, 3 June 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.