Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sarku Japan


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Boldly moving to draft. There is no clear consensus to keep, but there is also a lack of the sourcing and substance to maintain this as an article in mainspace. It will remain in draft space until it is improved and reviewed through the usual process. If it is not further improved, it will eventually be deleted. bd2412 T 01:34, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

Sarku Japan

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I have nominated this article for deletion due to the article's lack of reliable third-party citations after a decade of existance per WP:N, WP:V, and WP:RS and unable to find anything about the company via Google. -- 68.50.32.85 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:33, 13 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Deletion discussion page created on behalf of IP 68.50.32.85. The rationale for deletion may also be found on the article talk page. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 01:57, 13 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 04:37, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 04:38, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment. This restaurant chain is big enough for an article, but the present article is terrible. Zerotalk 06:58, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
 *  Weak keep. Here is a Washington Post article about the chain: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/capitalbusiness/sarku-japan-seeks-to-move-from-food-courts-to-standalone-franchises/2012/04/20/gIQAiJ4UaT_story.html?sw_bypass=true&utm_term=.1fa1dab2c5a1 - though I would feel better if I could find a second. There are a number of individual local restaurant reviews that might count. --GRuban (talk) 21:33, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Weak keep as per Wahington Post article and reviews Atlantic306 (talk) 16:03, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment. One would expect a company of its size would have more written about it in contemporary newspaper articles. Are there any newspaper articles that describes who had started the Canada-based chain (which strangely does not have any restaurants in Canada itself)? Why is the company based in Canada? Local restaurant reviews appear to be very difficult to locate that would satisfy WP:VERIFY (Yelp reviews does not satisfy WP:VERIFY); the few that I have seen so far is just an extension of the newspaper's advertising dept. due to the lack of non-positive reviews from those same writers. The current article is awful because it is partially based on company material with the rest of the material being unsubstantiated claims. As currently written, the article fails WP:NOTE -- 68.50.32.85 (talk) 01:52, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Two local restaurant reviews: New York Newsday Fredericksburg (Virginia) Free Lance–Star It's not going to be a featured article, but it's going to be a passable stub. --GRuban (talk) 20:03, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
 * A few more: Times Ledger The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. And here is the second real story on the chain I was looking for: Nation's Restaurant News. It's a full keep. --GRuban (talk) 20:19, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Compared to a few days ago, the subject of the article now has the potential of becoming a passable stub as long as an editor is willing to be WP:BOLD and fix this terrible article without the article falling into the WP:PROMO trap which recently AfDed PizzaRev. (I have to give GRuban special thanks for spending the time to dig out these articles.) The New York Newsday article is significant because it is written by an identified writer for a significant publication who also included the minor problems with her meal during her visit. On the other hand, the Times Ledger seems very promotional and may not be able to satisfy WP:NOTE by itself. Depending on how it is used, the 'Nation's Restaurant News article could fail per CORP. The The Atlanta Journal-Constitution article is very significant because it can point an editor to additional material about a single franchise in Atlanta, such as these AJC and Atlanta Business Chronicle'' articles. -- 68.50.32.85 (talk) 22:39, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Optakeover (U)(T)(C) 17:31, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails GNG and WP:NCORP. The reference posted by fails WP:CORPDEPTH and/or WP:ORGIND as it is entirely based on an interview with the founder, with no independent opinion/analysis, therefore also fails as an intellectually independent references and is a PRIMARY source. The second "news" story fails since it is based on a company announcement. The restaurant reviews posted provide no in-depth information on the topic.  -- HighKing ++ 19:13, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
 * The situation is even worst than what HighKing had depicted since the interview in question was with an insignificant franchise owner and not with a non-existent "founder" since the business appears to be the corporate creation of a Canada-based company. No one seems to be able to locate a single newspaper articles that describes the creation of the company and/or brand that was not based on a press release. The current article appears to be exclusively composed of material from a single corporate source. -- 68.50.32.85 (talk) 21:32, 23 September 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.