Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sarmad Sindhi (3rd nomination)


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The result was no consensus.  Arbitrarily0  ( talk ) 22:22, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Sarmad Sindhi
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No indication of meeting WP:MUSICBIO or WP:GNG. One source is not WP:significant coverage. Google searches not finding any other significant coverage. noq (talk) 21:15, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
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 * Keep I just checked the existing references at the article. It already has 3 working references including Dawn newspaper. Needs cleanup which I will do in the morning and also will add more sources. Ngrewal1 (talk) 01:51, 7 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Two short bits from Dawn. A couple of gossip sites and a blog - not really significant coverage. noq (talk) 11:48, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
 * COMMENT This article is much improved now. 3 references from reliable sources were added – two tributes to him on his death anniversary by Dawn (newspaper) in 2017 and 2018 plus a death anniversary tribute to him in 2019 by Radio Pakistan website where he used to sing.

Also cleaned up the article to give it a neutral tone, removed all unsourced content and made it a stub so other people may add to it as they find more sources. Added 6 new categories. Ngrewal1 (talk) 22:46, 7 December 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 05:21, 12 December 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: In light of Missvain's comments, relisting to enlist more discussion.
 * Comment I bet the subject is notable if folks do more research and work in non-English sources. Even just the number of YouTube videos of him singing is overwhelming. I even found TikTok videos of people singing his songs. So, clearly he's well known, just not in English. I'm just frustrated by being unfamiliar with what are popular, reliable sources in Sindi and Urdu. Are there any editors available who can read/write those languages who can help? Missvain (talk) 23:04, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep I did a bit of digging and he has an article in Sindhi Wikipedia. Now, I know that isn't enough for keep, but, note the two sources. There is a digital Encyclopedia of Sindhi culture and he has an entry. Now, the second source is unreliable - it's a message board. But, the fact that people talk about him and praise his work upon his death, again, shows that he matters in Sindhi culture. I also did a Google Books search and found him discussed in in the book "Transition to Democracy in Pakistan: 1985-88". The author talks about him being a "famous singer of Sindhi poetry" in the 1980s and that his work was inspiring.. I searched for his name and the "journal" and found some more things that lean towards him being notable, just not in English sources. He gets a mere mention in this journal article from the Karoonjhar Research Journal and is called a "famous singer" alongside other singers. I also just found this article - "Sarmad Sindhi Remembered On His 23rd Death Anniversary" at Sindh Courier. It's unlike me to suggest keep for an article in which I'm struggling to find sources, but, I really sincerely believe that he is famous in Pakistan and in Sindh culture. We just don't have many English language sources because that's not where he's famous. If someone who spoke Sindh could do some digging, we'd have the sources we need. Missvain (talk) 23:20, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Onel 5969  TT me 03:01, 20 December 2020 (UTC)


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