Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Saroha Rajgan


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Hits WP:GEOLAND as verifiably a village, discussion about renaming can occur elsewhere if necessary. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 07:04, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Saroha Rajgan

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Unreferenced stub about non-notable geo place, cannot find any sources (at least under the name as currently rendered), not even on Google Maps; fails WP:NGEO and possibly also WP:V. Creating editor keeps recreating the article despite earlier warnings, and a recent speedy was declined as it'd been nominated on wrong grounds, hence this AfD. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:31, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:31, 22 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete or redirect to Kallar Syedan Tehsil per WP:NPLACE: must be a very tiny village indeed, if it exists. I've copied this link from creator's sandbox, which mentions a village called Saroha. Captain Calm (talk) 07:44, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Move and improve, per discussion with Coolabahapple below. Captain Calm (talk) 07:56, 25 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment see also Draft:Saroha Rajgan, Draft:Saroha Rajgan 2, and the main author's other recent edits to related pages. I mentioned this because if the outcome is delete or redirect, a few weeks of create- protection or page-protection on the redirect may be in order.  Withholding actual "!vote" since I haven't researched this place yet.  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)  16:19, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Note that, as per WP:GEOLAND and WP:NPLACE a single source will do. Note also that IMO, no speedy deletion criterion applies to this article, and the speedy was properly declined. If no one can find a reliable source, then this will have to be deleted. If there is a plausible claim that a source exists and time is needed to research it, the page could be moved to draft. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 16:41, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 14:31, 24 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep, this village definitely exists (have a look at gmaps here), anyhoo, meets WP:NGEO as a legally recognised populated place, government notification document has been added to the article, here is a government valuation document that lists a number of properties in Saroha, btw, Sardar Tariq Masood, Chief justice of the Lahore High Court, and a Justice of the Supreme Court of Pakistan, was born in this village (see here). Coolabahapple (talk) 14:34, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * yes there are sufficient RS to verify Saroha exists (including the external link I added), but (forgive my ignorance) does Rajgan mean "village" or similar in one of the languages of Rawalpindi district? I'd change my vote to "keep" if "Saroha Rajgan" is another name for "Saroha". Or we could simply move the article to "Saroha" without redirect. Captain Calm (talk) 14:55, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I was wondering the same, as the referenced PDF or the above-mentioned link have no instance of 'Saroha Rajgan' per se. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:56, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Agree to move to "Saroha", Saroha looks to be the official name (adding "Rajgan" (means "princes"? (see here, "Furthermore, there were various compound titles simply including other princely styles, such as: ... Maharaja-i-Rajgan: great prince amongst princes, "Rulers ... Raja-e Rajgan ... Maharaja-e Rajgan)) while "...(village/place) of princes"?) may be a local unofficial variation? Coolabahapple (talk) 06:18, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, changing my position to "move and improve" above. Captain Calm (talk) 07:56, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 10:13, 30 September 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.