Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sarwar Munir Rao


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The result was   keep. the consensus is that there are sufficient sources; I make no judgement of my own. But I will say that a full length autobiography or biography is not required for notability  DGG ( talk ) 23:17, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Sarwar Munir Rao

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While this person certainly exists, I am unable to find sufficient indicia of notability per wp standards. Others are welcome to try. Created by a 1-article-only SPA. Tagged for notability for two years now. Epeefleche (talk) 22:37, 14 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep: The article just didn't get enough attention. He is notable enough.    . --lTopGunl (talk) 02:10, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. The first ref and the fourth ref are 1-sentence mentions (of his being dismissed) that I think do not constitute the non-trivial refs that we would need to reflect notability.  The fifth is even more trivial -- just a bare mention of his name on a tv schedule.  The second ref, similarly, looks like a 2-sentence treatment.  The third ref is longer, but its difficult for me to understand if his comments to a workshop at a university were notable.  In sum, I don't see the "substantial" coverage that would confer notability, and most of what has been offered seems to constitute what our notability rules refer to as "trivial coverage".--Epeefleche (talk) 04:22, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I see that the WP:BURDEN has come to me for contesting. But (not as a point for keep - just an insight) I know that Pakistan related notable topics some times don't have internet coverage while they do have print coverage. I'll see what I can find from Internet coverage or otherwise. In anycase this link refers to him as a director in PTV (which is Pakistan's national television) and might add some weight to keep. --lTopGunl (talk) 09:16, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Here are some links for his articles/books in urdu   . We do get 218,000 results for the google search as well. --lTopGunl (talk) 09:26, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
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 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –MuZemike 23:31, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BusterD (talk) 01:56, 30 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. The general notability guideline says multiple, reliable, independent sources with non-trivial coverage. Hard to get independent sources for TV journalists becuase all that's on the Web is PR publicity. Until he writes his Cronkite-style autobiography, notability is tough to demonstrate. --Wtshymanski (talk) 05:10, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep – It appears difficult to find sources for this subject, however, they do exist. Here is a search from the The Nation (Pakistan), in which the subject is listed several times in separate articles: search. Unfortunately, when clicking on the links, the articles just redirect back to the main page for the website. In the interest of countering systemic bias on Wikipedia, hopefully other users may be able to access some of these sources. Also, the links above posted by User:TopGun appear to further qualify topic notability. Northamerica1000 (talk) 05:55, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep There is secondary coverage about her. Even if the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability. Cavarrone (talk) 21:16, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
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