Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Saumitra Rawat


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. The Wordsmith Talk to me 18:27, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Saumitra Rawat

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Very likely a paid-for article or at least heavy UPE involvement post-creation. I won't PROD or speedy because the subject might be notable so it's worth a debate but the sourcing in the article as stands is paper thin and the article is essentially a CV in prose format. There are a few rock-solid reliable sources cited but they don't appear to say anything much about this gentleman. HJ Mitchell &#124; Penny for your thoughts? 12:33, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Medicine and India. HJ Mitchell &#124; Penny for your thoughts?  12:33, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete in light of near-certain paid editing, WP:NEWSORGINDIA is particularly concerning for me. I would not be surprised if many of the sources are themselves paid, which would render the sourcing ineligible for GNG consideration.  Good day—  RetroCosmos  talk 13:24, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. This article fails WP:GNG with mostly unreliable sources and the ones that we could consider somewhat reliable does not show any significant coverage about the subject. RangersRus (talk) 13:36, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep. This article was created by me as a part of my efforts to create articles on Padma Award winners of India. The subject of this article is a recipient of Padma Shri, the fourth highest civilian hour of a country with a population of 1.4 billion. It is up to people like User:RetroCosmos to believe that this is paid editing but before reaching to such a conclusion, I would advise anyone to check on my Wiki history. I believe Padma Shri gives the subject notability per WP:ANYBIO. If the article needs pruning to remove dubious references, that may be looked into. --jojo@nthony (talk) 14:16, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I am not accusing you in particular of paid editing. I thoroughly checked the article history before creating an SPI report, and (on a quick glance) did not believe you to be a sockpuppet. However, this is Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit. Good day—  RetroCosmos  talk 14:20, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Your comment was a sweeping one and, being the creator and major contributor of the article, I felt the accusation points towards me. If it is otherwise, sorry, it's my mistake, I must have failed to grasp the real content. jojo@nthony (talk) 14:26, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Sir Ganga Ram Hospital
 * https://sgrh.com/leadership-team#!#Board_of_Management
 * Padma Shri Award 2015
 * https://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ians/two-doctors-get-padma-bhushan-16-padma-shri-115012500823_1.html
 * https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/archive/delhi/padma-shri-for-dr-rawat-35815
 * https://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/2015/Jan/25/padma-awards-lk-advani-gets-padma-vibhushan-709535.html
 * https://www.deccanherald.com/india/heggade-amitabh-get-padma-vibhushan-2108842
 * https://www.indiatoday.in/education-today/gk-and-current-affairs/story/list-of-padma-awards-2015-247836-2015-04-09
 * https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/advani-bachchan-dilip-kumar-get-padma-vibhushan/articleshow/46015106.cms?from=mdr
 * https://www.news18.com/news/india/full-list-padma-awards-737736.html
 * https://newsroom24x7.com/2015/01/25/padma-awards-for-advani-bachchan-and-bill-gates/
 * https://www.thequint.com/news/india/the-104-people-who-were-conferred-the-padma-awards-today
 * https://tribunenewsline.com/know-about-dr-saumitra-rawat-who-was-selected-for-padma-shri/
 * https://thehinduimages.com/details-page.php?id=162006123
 * https://www.bhaskar.com/news/up-doctor-saumitra-rawat-got-padma-shri-award-will-give-free-treatment-to-poor-4951075-pho.html
 * https://pib.gov.in/newsite/PrintRelease.aspx?relid=114952
 * https://alumni.du.ac.in/archives/archive-15/pdf/1%20Medley%20Fast%20Track/alft%200004%2025%20padmas%20in%20last%205%20years%20and%20%202015%20padma%20awardees.pdf
 * https://in.ambafrance.org/17-foreigners-NRIs-among-104-Padma
 * https://zeenews.india.com/news/india/padma-awards-2015-announced-advani-amitabh-among-104-awardees_1536246.html
 * https://www.mha.gov.in/sites/default/files/2023-01/Awards_2015_14042017.PDF
 * First Colorectal Robotic Surgery in North India
 * https://zeenews.india.com/news/health/health-news/rare-robotic-surgery-to-remove-cancer-a-first-by-docs-in-north_23730.html
 * https://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ians/delhi-hospital-uses-robot-to-clear-rectal-cancer-113090400920_1.html
 * https://www.dailypioneer.com/2013/delhi/robot-helps-docs-remove-rectal-cancer.html
 * https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2468900920300426
 * https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Robotic-assisted-esophagectomy%3A-A-literature-review-Jha-Dhamija/2504f50a4cbf7c80fd63c54b1efbe262fe08e707
 * https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-981-16-5473-2_7
 * https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/archive/jalandhar/presentation-on-robotic-surgery-in-gastrointestinal-cancer-236001
 * https://www.worldwidejournals.com/indian-journal-of-applied-research-(IJAR)/recent_issues_pdf/2019/May/May_2019_1556694391_0208937.pdf
 * https://www.academia.edu/25863965/Controversies_in_management_of_gastric_cancer
 * https://medcraveonline.com/JLRDT/caudate-lobe-liver-abscess-early-surgical-drainage.html
 * https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2210261216304369
 * https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35900502/
 * https://www.jcehepatology.com/article/S0973-6883(19)30118-5/fulltext
 * https://www.researchgate.net/publication/342755102_Robotic-assisted_esophagectomy_A_literature_review_and_our_experience_at_tertiary_care_centre
 * https://healfoundation.in/changemakersclub/
 * https://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/id/eprint/10080144/7/Shahab%20Consensus%20statement_G02.pdf
 * https://ijcp.in/Pages/Post_Detail.aspx?wid=20303
 * https://www.thelancet.com/cms/10.1016/S1470-2045(15)00467-2/attachment/71ee9e98-fc1c-42f4-be7b-5c4fbd40822a/mmc1.pdf
 * https://zeenews.india.com/news/health/diseases-and-conditions/pancreatic-biliary-cancers-difficult-to-treat-experts_27665.html
 * Teaching, Training, Chairman, moderator, faculty in various national and International conferences
 * https://zeenews.india.com/news/nation/indian-docs-could-be-exempted-from-part-of-exam-in-uk_823177.html
 * https://asiindia.org/list-of-orators-for-asicon-2017/
 * https://asiindia.org/wp-content/uploads/asi-handbook-2020.pdf
 * https://asiindia.org/wp-content/uploads/ASI-State-Chapter-Activities-2017.pdf
 * https://www.jipmer.edu.in/sites/default/files/14th%20%20EVE%20%20Final%20Brochure%201.pdf
 * https://www.iasgcon2023.com/pdf/IASGCON-2023-Final-Program.pdf
 * https://ibhi.in/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/IBHI-Oncology-Summit-Programme-Schedule.pdf
 * https://www.iages.in/file/FALS-Colorectal-2019-Brochure.pdf
 * https://www.slideshare.net/GEMHospital/iasgcon-2016-scientific-program
 * https://www.iages.in/file/FALS-Colorectal-2018.pdf
 * https://therightdoctors.com/images/iages-2020-dr-saumitra-rawat-laparoscopic-d2-gastrectomy%E2%80%90step-by-step
 * https://rectalcancerupdate.com/
 * https://www.dmhospital.org/Academics-Laparoscopic-Surgery
 * https://www.assocham.org/uploads/files/1623754632.pdf
 * Contributor Oxford Handbook of Surgery
 * https://academic.oup.com/book/30086/chapter-abstract/256609570?redirectedFrom=fulltext
 * https://www.euro-libris.ro/carte/oxford-handbook-of-clinical-surgery-oxford-medical-handbooks--i17401
 * He was appointed member, National Task Force for Corona, India to facilitate a public health response to the pandemic based on scientific and specialised domain knowledge. 12-member National Task Force for Corona included Union Cabinet Secretary as convenor,  Secretary of the Union Ministry of Health and Family Welfare as ex officio member and nine other leading experts in healthcare in the country
 * https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/covid-19-sc-sets-up-national-task-force-to-streamline-oxygen-allocation-across-the-country/articleshow/82479711.cms
 * https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/india/supreme-court-sets-up-a-12-member-national-task-force-to-facilitate-public-health-response-to-the-pandemic/articleshow/82481922.cms
 * SC sets up 12-member national task force to allocate oxygen across India | Latest News India - Hindustan Times
 * Supreme Court forms 12-member oxygen task force to fight COVID emergency (newindianexpress.com)
 * SC forms National Task Force to streamline oxygen allocation : The Tribune India
 * Supreme Court forms National Task Force for transparent oxygen allocation - The Hindu
 * https://www.nationalheraldindia.com/national/supreme-court-forms-national-task-force-to-streamline-oxygen-allocation
 * https://www.indiatoday.in/coronavirus-outbreak/story/sc-constitutes-12-member-national-taskforce-to-distribute-oxygen-essential-drugs-1800282-2021-05-08
 * https://www.indiatoday.in/coronavirus-outbreak/story/sc-constitutes-12-member-national-taskforce-to-distribute-oxygen-essential-drugs-1800282-2021-05-08
 * COVID-19: SC sets up National Task Force to oversee oxygen distribution - The Week
 * https://www.financialexpress.com/lifestyle/health/supreme-court-sets-up-12-member-national-task-force-to-ensure-oxygen-supply/2248503/
 * https://zeenews.india.com/india/supreme-court-sets-up-12-member-panel-to-monitor-oxygen-allocation-amid-covid-19-surge-2360617.html
 * https://www.timesnownews.com/india/article/supreme-court-constitutes-national-task-force-for-oxygen-allocation-in-country-amid-raging-covid-pandemic/754535
 * https://www.dailypioneer.com/2021/top-stories/sc-forms-national-task-force-to-streamline-oxygen-allocation.html
 * https://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/current-affairs/080521/sc-steps-in-sets-up-12-member-national-task-force-to-manage-o2-pande.html
 * https://www.businesstoday.in/latest/economy-politics/story/covid-19-supreme-court-forms-12-member-task-force-to-distribute-oxygen-to-states-295326-2021-05-08
 * https://www.news18.com/news/india/covid-19-supreme-court-sets-up-12-member-national-task-force-for-oxygen-distribution-to-states-3719111.html
 * https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/coronavirus-outbreak-supreme-court-sets-up-12-member-oxygen-national-task-force/cid/1815018
 * https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/india-news-sc-sets-up-task-force-to-oversee-distribution-of-oxygen-to-states-uts/382300
 * https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/trends/national-task-force-on-oxygen-why-has-it-been-constituted-who-are-its-members-and-their-mandate-6873901.html
 * https://www.aninews.in/news/national/general-news/supreme-court-sets-up-national-task-force-to-assess-oxygen-distribution-in-country-amid-covid-19-surge20210508184050/
 * https://www.thestatesman.com/india/oxygen-crisis-supreme-court-pushes-setting-national-task-force-entire-country-1502966760.html
 * https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/sc-ropes-in-experts-for-national-task-force-to-overhaul-allocation-of-o2-to-states/articleshow/82489728.cms
 * https://www.timesnownews.com/videos/et-now/markets/sc-appointed-panel-wants-2-3-weeks-of-strategic-oxygen-reserve-for-future-emergencies/101500
 * https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/covid-19-india-must-have-strategic-oxygen-reserve-ntf-tells-sc/articleshow/83827026.cms
 * https://news.abplive.com/news/india/supreme-court-constitutes-national-task-force-to-review-oxygen-distribution-amid-covid-crisis-1457413
 * https://www.livemint.com/news/india/sc-sets-up-national-task-force-to-assess-country-wide-oxygen-distribution-amid-covid19-11620473406508.html
 * https://www.ibtimes.co.in/covid-updates-supreme-court-sets-national-task-force-streamline-oxygen-supply-across-india-836094
 * https://www.aninews.in/news/national/general-news/first-meeting-of-national-task-force-on-medical-oxygen-set-up-by-sc-held-today-sources20210509223735/
 * https://theprint.in/judiciary/sc-forms-12-member-task-force-to-ensure-scientific-distribution-of-oxygen-to-states-uts/654930/
 * https://twitter.com/barandbench/status/1390988326723670017
 * https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1390998444941078534
 * https://zeenews.india.com/video/india/immunityconclaveonzee-discussion-over-indias-fight-against-coronavirus-with-senior-medical-officials-2293789.html
 * https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/healthcare/biotech/healthcare/covid-jabs-for-12-14-age-group-starts-tomorrow-clinical-trials-ensure-corbevax-vaccine-is-safe-says-dr-saumitra-rawat/videoshow/90229303.cms
 * https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/healthcare/biotech/healthcare/no-need-to-vaccinate-those-who-had-covid-19-infection-suggests-health-experts/videoshow/83434001.cms
 * https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/healthcare/biotech/healthcare/covid-jabs-for-12-14-age-group-starts-tomorrow-clinical-trials-ensure-corbevax-vaccine-is-safe-says-dr-saumitra-rawat/videoshow/90229303.cms?from=mdr
 * Received Honorary Doctorate of Science (DSc) by KumaunUniversity
 * https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/dehradun/pm-likely-to-attend-16th-convocation-of-kumaun-university/articleshow/71637504.cms
 * https://navbharattimes.indiatimes.com/state/uttarakhand/other-cities/justice-dy-chandrachud-get-honorary-degree-at-convocation-ceremony-of-kumaon-university/amp_articleshow/74529347.cms
 * https://www.devbhoomimedia.com/kumaon-university-16th-convocation/
 * https://www.jagran.com/uttarakhand/nainital-justice-chandrachud-rajat-sharma-and-padma-shri-dr-soumitra-rawat-will-get-honorary-degrees-at-the-convocation-ceremony-of-kumaon-university-20075566.html
 * https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/india/india-tv-s-editor-in-chief-rajat-sharma-to-be-awarded-with-honorary-doctorate-from-kumaun-university-595785
 * Young Leaders Conclave
 * https://www.narendramodi.in/shri-narendra-modi-to-speak-at-the-young-indian-leaders-conclave-on-29th-june-2013-5354
 * Distinguished alumini of Delhi University
 * https://alumni.du.ac.in/archives/Ezine10/content/02%20What%27s%20New/ALUMNI%20%20SERVICES%20%20%202017%20%E2%80%93%202018.pdf
 * Delivered Endowment Lecture at Association of Surgeons of India Annual Conference
 * https://asiindia.org/prof-santokh-singh-anand-endowment-lecturers/
 * https://asiindia.org/list-of-orators-for-asicon-2017/
 * Renowned Indian surgical gastroenterologist and Padma Shri recipient, Dr  Saumitra Rawat (Head Gastroenterology and Liver Transplant,  Sir Ganga Ram Hospital) delivered extension  lecture on ‘New Modalities in Gastro-intestinal Cancer Surgery’ at the  Department of Surgery, JNMC
 * https://twitter.com/AMUPRO1/status/958940958069964800
 * Delivered  the prestigious 2018 European Association for Endoscopic Surgery lecture. “Training in minimal access surgery in asia pacific and avoiding errors & complications” at Annual conference of Association of Laparoscopic Surgeons of Great Britain and Ireland in Manchester
 * https://www.alsgbi.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/016-Final-Programme-2018.pdf
 * https://www.alsgbi.org/manchester2018-2/ h
 * ttps://www.alsgbi.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/1.-Training-Day-Programme-and-Application-Details.pdf
 * https://www.alsgbi.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/019-Spring-2019_web.pdf
 * Doctor of the year, 2017 awarded by Indian Medical Association
 * https://imahq.blogspot.com/2017/07/ima-awards-announced-congratulations-to.html
 * Hononary Member, Association of Surgeons of Great Britain and Ireland
 * https://www.alsgbi.org/alsgbi-council/
 * Prime Minister Narendra Modi has invited Saumitra Rawat to be part of the Swachhata Hi Seva initiative, saying that his contribution will be instrumental in building a clean and healthy India.
 * https://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ians/modi-invites-noted-gastroenterologist-to-contribute-to-swachhata-hi-seva-117092000993_1.html
 * https://www.hindustantimes.com/environment/gandhi-jayanti-2017-eminent-personalities-support-swachhata-hi-seva-campaign/story-78kj5Rw5Wu8lq7qsxgcvBI.html
 * https://medicaldialogues.in/pm-modi-invites-eminent-medical-professionals-to-join-swachhata-hi-seva-drive
 * https://www.m3india.in/contents/news/modi-invites-noted-gastroenterologist-to
 * https://zeenews.india.com/india/rare-six-kilo-tumor-removed-from-65-year-old-patient-in-delhi-2382512.html
 * https://zenonco.io/cancer/anirudh-agarwal-periampullary-cancer-caregiver/
 * https://www.amazon.in/Kahani-Doctor-Saab-Arvind-Yadav/dp/1643241532/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1533090982&sr=8-10&keywords=arvind+yadav
 * Following are media links. Some would be in English others in Indian language Hindi. They are  from top TV Channels in India during the difficult time of Corona pandemic. He did Yeoman service during difficult time
 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAnET5_Xg_Y
 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGvVEsRsSHU
 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCcei4tweK4
 * Can someone from Wikipedia team edit  profile. You may find more references. 110.235.234.62 (talk) 18:08, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * :I agree with @Tachs. The article in itself is worth keeping. It is a fact that it's very a prestigious award given by the President of India, and the gentleman seems notable. It seems to be hastly edited though and a much better approach can be taken in adding more reliable references. I think the page should stay and restored to the previous version. Roosterwiki2020 (talk) 14:33, 16 January 2024 (UTC) Comment from blocked sockpuppet struck. HJ Mitchell &#124; Penny for your thoughts? 14:48, 17 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep
 * Dr. Saumitra Rawat, honored with the prestigious Padma Shri, showing his dedication and service in the medical field. His recognition alongside Dr. Ashok Seth, whose career is detailed on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashok_Seth, marks a significant moment in medical excellence.
 * During the COVID-19 pandemic, Dr. Rawat's expertise was integral to India's response. As a member of a select team, he was pivotal in strategizing medical oxygen allocation nationwide, showcasing his commitment to public health. For more on this, visit https://theleaflet.in/sc-forms-12-member-task-force-to-devise-methodology-for-allocation-of-medical-oxygen-across-india-covid19.
 * In the eyes of many, including myself, he stands not just as a medical professional, but as a symbol of hope and resilience, deserving of utmost respect and admiration in medicine. 122.180.181.87 (talk) 14:31, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * In the eyes of many, including myself, he stands not just as a medical professional, but as a symbol of hope and resilience, deserving of utmost respect and admiration in medicine. 122.180.181.87 (talk) 14:31, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * In the eyes of many, including myself, he stands not just as a medical professional, but as a symbol of hope and resilience, deserving of utmost respect and admiration in medicine. 122.180.181.87 (talk) 14:31, 16 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment IP removed two deletes from this AfD:, since self-reverted; closer please double-check history before closing. Also voted twice this is getting comical.  Good day—  RetroCosmos  talk 14:43, 16 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep. Dr. Saumitra Rawat was honored with the Padma Shri in 2015 (https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Delhi/padma-shri-for-gang-ram-doctor/article7051082.ece), a prestigious award for his remarkable contributions to medicine . He is recognized for his pioneering work in Laparoscopic and Robotic Gastrointestinal surgeries, addressing complex diseases like colorectal, stomach, and pancreatic cancers, as seen in this YouTube video. Throughout the COVID-19 pandemic ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LK5-_7YVY8 ), Dr. Rawat actively served the nation. It's disheartening to see some people commenting on his profile without understanding or researching his impactful contributions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.180.181.87 (talk) 14:41, 16 January 2024 (UTC)


 * * Strong Keep. I researched the latest versions and the history, and the links posted above. Seems like the page has not been edited since 2022 and the most recent edits happened in quick successions without reliable sources. The current version is same as the one in June 2022. The page should be further updated with these latest sources.
 * Roosterwiki2020 (talk) 14:48, 16 January 2024 (UTC) Comment from blocked sockpuppet struck. HJ Mitchell &#124; Penny for your thoughts? 14:48, 17 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment. User:Roosterwiki2020 is a new account created couple of minutes ago and jumped right in support of jojo@nthony and voting to keep the article. IP 122.180.181.87 followed here. These accounts and IP are suspicious.RangersRus (talk) 15:02, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry but when did creating an account became an issue? Yes it's a new account due to what looks like a clear sabotage. Let's assess the merit on the facts we have instead of passing sweeping statements please. I'm quite surprised because at one point @RetroCosmos seems to have restored the recent/problematic version, and then opened the SIP report. Roosterwiki2020 (talk) 15:05, 16 January 2024 (UTC) Comment from blocked sockpuppet struck. HJ Mitchell &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 14:48, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm just waiting for a 3rd to come in and say ultrakeep. Good day—  RetroCosmos  talk 15:05, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Was the version created by @Tachs okay, in your opinion - @RangersRus and @RetroCosmos? Or was that also paid for, and through a suspicious account? Roosterwiki2020 (talk) 15:09, 16 January 2024 (UTC) Comment from blocked sockpuppet struck. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 14:48, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: Some mention of the award won, but most is of the person to media about medical procedures or diagnoses for other individuals . Not quite at notability here due to a lack of sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 16:09, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The link https://zeenews.india.com/news/india/padma-awards-2015-announced-advani-amitabh-among-104-awardees_1536246.html clearly mentions 'Dr. Saumitra Rawat - NRI/PIO - (Medicine)' at 4th last under 'Padma Shree Category'. Further, the other link https://www.indialegallive.com/top-news-of-the-day/news/justice-sanjay-kishan-kaul-gall-bladder-surgery/ mentions that Dr Saumitra did a gall bladder surgery of Justice Sanjay Kishan at Sir Ganga Ram Hospital. So what's your standpoint? 49.14.140.27 (talk) 17:18, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * A one line mention isn't substantial coverage. Doing surgery on a famous person isn't notable. Oaktree b (talk) 20:09, 16 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep
 * Instead of turning it into a big argument, let's look at the facts. Wikipedia itself says Saumitra Rawat got the Padma Shri in 2015 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Padma_Shri_award_recipients_(2010%E2%80%932019), a really important award in India. The government must have checked all the details before giving him such a big honor. So, instead of making a big deal, maybe someone just updated their profile with information that hadn't been changed for a while. 103.90.183.126 (talk) 16:42, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a reliable source Industrial Insect (talk) 17:22, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep: Dr. Saumitra Rawat received the Padma Shri in 2015 for his amazing work in medicine (https://tribunenewsline.com/know-about-dr-saumitra-rawat-who-was-selected-for-padma-shri/). He actively helps people through medicine. His profile on Wiki is there to motivate young people in the country to work for the nation's betterment.
 * 49.14.140.27 (talk) 17:21, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * WP:ILIKEIT Industrial Insect (talk) 17:22, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Which is fine, but he's had no media coverage in 9 years now, other than doing surgery on famous people. As inspiring as that is, we need more than "doctor does surgery on important person" articles. Oaktree b (talk) 20:11, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Let's avoid putting someone down just because we haven't learned enough about them. I found many articles from years after 2015, and I'm sharing some with you for your information(https://theleaflet.in/sc-forms-12-member-task-force-to-devise-methodology-for-allocation-of-medical-oxygen-across-india-covid19/). Dr. Rawat treats everyone the same, and I don't believe doctors distinguish between rich and poor. Here's another article with facts instead of just words (https://www.bhaskar.com/news/up-doctor-saumitra-rawat-got-padma-shri-award-will-give-free-treatment-to-poor-4951075-pho.html). Jaiprakash1999 (talk) 04:07, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * We aren't here to elevate or put anyone down, we need sourcing that talks about them at length, or there is no notability here. Neither source is useful, the first one is just a mention of the person in a list of people, the second one is barely half a page of text. Oaktree b (talk) 16:00, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep: Dr. Saumitra's old wiki page needs updating. The confusion arises from no recent changes since he received the award from the Government of India. Adding reliable new links would give a more current understanding of his noble work. Rather than removing the page, let's update it with the latest references.


 * Strong Keep: Wikipedia had recognized Dr. Rawat for receiving the Padma Shri earlier (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Padma_Shri_award_recipients_(2010%E2%80%932019))and his hospital acknowledges his work( https://sgrh.com/doctor-details/institute-of-surgical-gastroenterology-gi-and-hpb-onco-surgery-and-liver-transplantation/saumitra-rawat)( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LK5-_7YVY8), along with features for his notable contributions during the COVID(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCcei4tweK4) crisis in India(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV0tgC-wNoQ), there's enough information available online about him. Instead of asking to delete his profile, let's make Wikipedia a platform to acknowledge hardworking people, focusing on their efforts rather than questioning their credibility. This would be heartening for him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SpectreXWraith (talk • contribs) 04:43, 17 January 2024 (UTC)  Comment from blocked sockpuppet struck. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 14:48, 17 January 2024 (UTC)


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