Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Savage Circus


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep, per WP:BAND#6 argument.  Spinning Spark  11:24, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Savage Circus

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This band fails WP:BAND. Google News archive searches are only providing passing mentions. Northamerica1000(talk) 12:34, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- Cheers,  Riley   Huntley  15:35, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. -- Cheers,  Riley   Huntley  15:35, 16 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete This is an interesting one. The article has existed since 2005, yet as far as Google is concerned, the band barely exists. I could find a few reviews of the albums but nothing that could be considered WP:RS, a few announcements about concerts in 2007, and a lot of metal site stuff that could probably be dismissed as non-reliable. Very little third-party coverage. I think this is a case of inherited notability that remained under the radar for a long time. I would have considered a redirect to Thomen Stauch but that one is iffy on the notability department as well. All in all, the group certainly fails WP:BAND. I'd say delete, and CSD#A9 the two albums shortly thereafter. § FreeRangeFrog 20:28, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Not Notable, should have been deleted 8 years ago. --Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 21:12, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - According to http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=126896, Savage Circus has at least two notable band members.--Jax 0677 (talk) 23:33, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
 * A single blurb on blabbermouth made back in 2009...but last updated..."Last Updated: November 17, 2012". TODAY! Unless there is some real media coverage on this unknown band, my opinion must stand. --Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 00:36, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - SC has four notable musicians, Yenz Leonhardt, Thomen Stauch, Piet Sielck and Mike Terrana. If there is only one notable musician in the band, the ensemble's article should redirect to that individual.  If we were to redirect the article, to whom would it be redirected, and why?  If there is more than one notable musician in the band, how will people know quickly that the other members are/were in the band?--Jax 0677 (talk) 00:58, 18 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 00:04, 24 November 2012 (UTC)



Comment - IMO, if my questions can not be legitimately answered, then the article should be kept. I think the issue at hand is "Does Savage Circus warrant at least a one line article denoting that it exists?" If so, then we should leave all properly referenced information in the article.--Jax 0677 (talk) 03:44, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
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