Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Save Sunset Cliffs


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 02:47, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Save Sunset Cliffs

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Contested prod; non-notable organization; notability not claimed; no reliable sources; most of article is copied verbatim from the organization's website MelanieN (talk) 01:56, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment I proposed the article for deletion, but the author of the article posted the following comment on the discussion page, which I took as objecting to the prod (the author is new to Wikipedia, so allowances must be made for not knowing the procedures):
 * The reason this page is being recommended for removal is because the founder of the group is running for governor of California and his opponents are trying to remove him from your site. Several times mr. aguirre was removed from list of candidates and profile vandalized by anonymous wikipedia editors. Not having a page for this organization would be a political abuse of wikipedia by wealthy campaigns. I am adding the Secetary of State voters guide which list the organization and several other references to the article. This group has over 2000 members.Sdpolitics (talk) 00:01, 13 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment Expanding on my reasons for saying the organization is non-notable: It appears to be a small grass-roots pressure group focusing on one city park, Sunset Cliffs Natural Park, which itself is not notable enough to have a Wikipedia article. Contrary to claims in the article, the group does not appear to be an official city advisory group; the actual city advisory group is the Sunset Cliffs Natural Park Recreation Council . I could not find the organization in a search of California corporations, and the group’s website does not list any officers or board of directors. In a Google serarch, the only person ever mentioned in connection with this organization is its founder, Richard William Aguirre. In fact the "organization" appears to be pretty much a one-man show consisting of Aguirre. This article was created by a special-purpose account, User:Sdpolitics, who also created the article about Richard William Aguirre. That article has been deleted once as non-notable and is up for deletion a second time. Aguirre is running for office, and this organization seems to be his only claim to fame. --MelanieN (talk) 02:18, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions.  —MelanieN (talk) 02:39, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete: I can't find significant coverage for this organization. Joe Chill (talk) 02:19, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per G12 and A7. Mostly copied from the website and no assertion of significance. --TorriTorri(Talk to me!) 02:42, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I am writing from Scotland so have no axe to grind... if there is not a Wikipedia article on Sunset Cliffs then there certainly should not be one on the pressure group to save it. Delete, but I suggest (perhaps) at article on Sunset Cliffs themselves with a weblink to the group and brief discussion on the current debate to save them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stephencdickson (talk • contribs) 12:44, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the suggestion. I could write such an article but I am not convinced it would be notable enough for Wikipedia. The park consists of ocean cliffs which are subject to erosion, and there are differing opinions about how to slow the erosion, but IMO the arguments are of purely local interest. It is highly melodramatic to describe the situation as a battle to save the Sunset Cliffs. --MelanieN (talk) 14:53, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.