Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Scarlett OConnor


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of Nashville cast members. "(Fan)Cruft" is not a deletion rationale; however non-compliance with GNG or notability in general is and as noted an interview is usually not enough to satisfy that. Roughly evenly split between deleting and redirecting here so going for a redirect per the recommendations at WP:ATD and in case someone has material to merge over. Edit warring ought to be settled at WP:ANEW seems like. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 18:31, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Scarlett OConnor

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OK, this has gone on long enough. User keeps reverting a redirect without adding proof that this subject is notable per our GNG. They keep on saying "but it's really a character on a show" as if that matters. Doesn't pass notability. I'll accept a redirect. Drmies (talk) 02:16, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete - I agree, enough is enough. Not every character on every show ever filmed is notable enough for their own article. This one certainly isn't, and there has been zero effort to show that they are. No notability outside the fictional reality of the show.  Onel 5969  TT me 02:33, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 09:58, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 09:58, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 09:58, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

scope_creep (talk) 15:57, 4 October 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment It might be worth noting that the character has appeared in all 108 episodes, and in most instances, these types of characters tend to have a have an article. And as much as I hate the listing of these fan cruft articles, organic WP precedent/policy states they are prohibited unless they have coverage that satisfies WP:GNG, whereas fan precedent means they automatically get an article, which is true of all fans, including sports fans, who are happily add fourth division and amateur clubs, which are outside remit. I could list any number of fan articles of popular series, which include byzantine, single glance, character presence, a single word spoken etc, resulting in an article. Anime is particularly bad. Why is this different? scope_creep (talk) 11:05, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep 15 seconds of Google searching gives me this, which suggests there's plenty more. I see no indication a BEFORE search was conducted, and indeed it doesn't look like one was done.  Like so many other fictional elements, we need editors who are willing to source and improve existing content on notable topics to make the notability self-documenting. Jclemens (talk) 06:47, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment Interviews are primary sources, per WP:PRIMARY, an article requires secondary sources to pass WP:GNG. An interview with a star about her character isn't sufficiently detached to show notability.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 15:42, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List_of_Nashville_cast_members. It seems like an appropriate target for the article as information about the character can already be found there. This may be a search term for a fan of the series (though, I admit that I do not imagine it will get a lot of use per say.) Aoba47 (talk) 00:40, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – filelakeshoe (t / c) &#xF0F6;  13:27, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge with main Nashville page. Deathlibrarian (talk) 10:58, 13 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete. The main difference between this character's article and that of Rayna Jaymes's is the notable recognition, as given in the Jaymes lead. Bowen as O'Connor only has this. Screentime and sourced recap sites mean nothing. —  Wylie pedia  07:05, 14 October 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.