Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Scenic route


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. No consensus to delete. The issue of what to merge into what can continue on the various talk pages. Perhaps this article can be turned into a disambiguation page. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:44, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Scenic route

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Possible WP:DICTDEF failure (although I'm inclined to let something on this topic exist, there still is the fact that it is basically a DICTDEF). Request comment and deletion/transwiki if it is. &eta;oian  &Dagger;orever &eta;ew &Dagger;rontiers  07:47, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - Although I usually hear the term used as a metaphor or as a convenient juxtaposition of the two words, the concept of scenic routes is surely notable and worth including. We have the same concept in Australia. See, for example, the Great Ocean Road. - Richard Cavell (talk) 10:05, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Tourist highway. --NE2 13:02, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep expandable. The term is quite specific, and is not the same as the term mentioned just above. . DGG (talk) 04:12, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It is the same - a "specially labeled road...that travels through a scenic or culturally significant area". Most U.S. states have statewide programs to designate these, for instance State Scenic Highway System (California). The other type - a "scenic" banner plate above the number - is just a special case, where what would normally be an alternate route is marked as such. --NE2 05:34, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge & Redir to Tourist highway. Exit2DOS2000   •T•C•  23:11, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - I tend to think this is one of thoes terms that is slightly different for every country. In Canada we tend to call them Scenic Drive's (even though that term has a different WikiMeaning, Scenic Drive). Is there a associated Project that could unify all the related terms ?  Exit2DOS2000   •T•C•  23:11, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * For me, scenic drive means just that, a drive thought a scenic area. This could be a formal or informal designation.  But it generally will be over more then one road like 49-Mile Scenic Drive.  I think that route, especially when it is officially designated, is usually a single road. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:19, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment. Just to put in my two pence worth from a British perspective, I'm with Richard in that this term is usually used here in a metaphorical way to describe a circuitous, indirect route, such as may be used by an unscrupulous taxi driver, rather than being literally concerned with the scenary, although that is obviously the original meaning. Phil Bridger (talk) 23:31, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep & merge Tourist highway into Scenic route, which is the widely used term in Canada and the US. A tourist highway is a scenic route, so I gather: but not all scenic routes are highways. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 02:33, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: I agree. One example: Alaska Marine Highway is a National Scenic Byway, but isn't even a road! --Triadian (talk) 22:39, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep, merge "tourist highway" into "scenic road". As the original creator of the page, I just made the page to refer to the auxiliary U.S. highway, but realized that there were "scenic routes" in other countries as well. Upon request of deletion, I just decided to go ahead and honor that request by redirecting to the auxiliary route page that I've been working on lately (which was reverted because I didn't realize this discussion was actually taking place), but it seems like we are discussing whether a future article should exist with the name "scenic route". In this case, and with further research, I have determined that an article entitled "scenic route" should be created as a compilation of the terms "tourist highway", "scenic route", "scenic byway", "scenic waterway", and other similar terms used in various countries. This way, we will all have an understanding of the meaning of the term and can locate the type that we are referring to. This is what has been done with the article "Bypass". "Tourist highway" isn't sourced and (quickly) I can't find many sources that call the roads that. Thus, I think "scenic route" is the better term for the title. I think this is a good compromise for everyone. Agree? --Triadian (talk) 22:32, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge Tourist highway into Scenic route. Someone had redirected this to Auxiliary route which it clearly is not. As others have pointed out, there are several related terms that probably need to be combined into this article. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:50, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I see that there are also two main categories, Category:Tourist highways and Category:Scenic drives. And regional categories like Category:Scenic travelways in Canada that are a sub-category of both. If we're left with a merged article as Scenic route or Scenic drive, we should make sure we use that term for the main category, too, no? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:56, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: That would be correct! I didn't realize there were that many categories on the subject. --Triadian (talk) 18:47, 16 December 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.