Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/School tie


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. -- Cirt (talk) 12:25, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

School tie

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 * I found this page deleted prodded, but school ties are an important part of some people's lives and are worth an article about them, after some editing. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:52, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

School ties are exclusive to each school and even some years within a school or sports teams, but this is NOT just for public schools. 94.168.41.206 (talk) 11:36, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I think this page should be kept but it needs a major rewrite. The bit about public schools can be kept but rewritten as nearly every school in the UK wears a tie, not just public schools.  It also does not have to say 'in Britain one does not graduate' as that makes it seem like it is written for an American audience and the bit that says 'A humorous unisex alternative is socks in the appropriate colours'.  I have never heard of socks.


 * Keep Clearly a notable topic. The article should be improved, but even as it is I learned more than I knew about school ties before reading it. Kitfoxxe (talk) 12:09, 15 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Needs rewritten but particularly needs retitled... it should specifically be OLD School Ties... the article specifically relates to ties of FPs (Former Pupils) which is different in every sense from "School Ties". Many schools have a tie but only a small fraction have an FP tie. The FP tie is usually much more sophisticated than the school tie from which it "derives". Whilst some ties are almost "public knowledge" the majority are unlikely to be recognised by anyone other than other FPs and school members.--Stephencdickson (talk) 12:29, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Can "Old school tie" be a section within "School tie"? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 13:07, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
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 * Keep. A notable social custom.  Sources can be easily found to confirm what the article says.  Distinct enough from old boy network, which is where old school tie redirects to, to warrant a separate article.  - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 16:05, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - I agree it's a significant social custom, but I have a feeling much of its content could be more efficiently merged into old boy network and, simply, tie necktie. That said, I'm open to the possibility of this as a standalone article with content that is distinct from either of those.-- K orr u ski Talk 17:36, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment. The article on necktie already contains a section on "ties as a sign of membership" that may be partially redundant to this article.  Ideally, this is an article that cries out for a gallery of images, although that will unfortunately be controversial. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 17:59, 15 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep - Encyclopedia-worthy topic, in my judgment; as the See Also notes, Class ring is the American equivalent. Whatever shortcomings exist in this article should be corrected through the usual process, not via deletion. Carrite (talk) 21:15, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - If this article is kept, I propose that it be moved to Old school tie (currently a redirect). It is really about old school ties, as someone has commented above. I would make the change now, but I don't want to do anything controversial while the AfD is in progress, unless there is broad support?-- K orr u ski Talk 09:11, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - This article needs a substantial rewrite, but AFD isn't cleanup. -- Alpha Quadrant   talk    04:10, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.