Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Schools 4 Schools


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to The Oaktree Foundation. Shereth 21:01, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Schools 4 Schools

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Was nominated for speedy deletion and contested. I thought it claimed notability but can find no reliable sources to back up that claim. Selket Talk 05:31, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * As best I can tell, it's still a Speedy candidate since it hasn't bothered to even assert notability. Either way, delete. Bullzeye (Ring for Service) 06:16, 10 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Speedy Delete no assertion of notability and advertising. Jasynnash2 (talk) 09:00, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete Fails WP:N. Masterpiece2000   ( talk ) 14:11, 10 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Strong delete should have been speedied per original nomination ukexpat (talk) 20:12, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Schools 4 Schools is indeed a noteworthy topic to be on wikipedia. It is (as said in the article) one of the flagship programs of the Oaktree Foundation.

For a bit of a background on The Oaktree Foundation, read its wikipedia site, or visit www.theoaktree.org. You will find that The Oaktree Foundation has some 15,000 supporters and 500 active volunteers in Australia. Many of these volunteers are currently working on the schools 4 schools program.

The Schools 4 Schools program is having a broad impact in South Africa, and in 2008 is being rolled out in 13 South African Schools in the KwaZulu-Natal Province of South Africa including; - Mcothoyi High School - KwaPata High School - Siqongweni High School - KwaBazothini High School - Hlahlindlela High School - Swelihle High School - Siyabonga High School - Umyeka High School - KwaVutha High School - Khamangwa High School - Qhilika High School - Sidelilie High School

These High schools are getting access to a peer-to-peer HIV/AIDS education program, along with communication with their australian partner schools.

The Schools 4 Schools program has also had a lot of recent media attention:

NOTE: I'm quite inexperienced with wikipedia, so if i haven't answered anyones concerns properly, i would love some advice on what exactly is the problem with this page, and what more i need to prove in order for it to be accepted as legitimate. Thanks.

Oaktree1 (talk) 01:09, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TerriersFan (talk) 01:16, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge to The Oaktree Foundation. I am relisting this because of the addition of substantial, reliable sources added since the previous comments were made, to allow time for the sources to be evaluated. If The Oaktree Foundation is notable, a different question, then there seems no reason why a sourced initiative should not be merged into that article. TerriersFan (talk) 01:16, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.   —TerriersFan (talk) 01:25, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions.   —TerriersFan (talk) 01:49, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge with The Oaktree Foundation --Matilda talk 02:06, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge with The Oaktree Foundation per TerriersFan.--Sting  Buzz Me...   02:20, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Additional references now show that the topic is notable and it warrants a keep. The project diary was published in a major Australian newpapers for a number of weeks, and there is an article in a major Australian newspaper wholly on the project, as well as some minor mentions in other sources. Merge is not supported as OakTree Foundation is probably non-notable in its own right. Assize (talk) 03:34, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge to The Oaktree Foundation. The project is interesting, and more notable than most of the middle schools that show up on AfD, but the foundation seems to be the correct place for the article. One day perhaps there will be enough information to justify an article for these schools apart from the foundation, but that isn't today. CRGreathouse (t | c) 15:32, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I would suggest that the initiative isn't a school, it's a national and international project, so this topic shouldn't be compared to a middle school. The lack of information in the article isn't a ground for deletion or merging. It should be marked as a stub until the info in the references are brought into the article. Assize (talk) 22:26, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree that the initiative is not a school, should not be judged by middle-school standards, and appears to have notability. I just think that The Oaktree Foundation is a better place for it. CRGreathouse (t | c) 18:09, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge to Oaktree Foundation. Five Years 03:21, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep, if "It's a really good cause" was a valid reason to keep, I'd vote "Strong Keep" in a heartbeat. However, I still think it meets the notability standards due to coverage in the Herald Sun, The Point (which appears to be a major and award-winning publication) and on Australian national radio network Triple J.  Lankiveil (speak to me) 04:55, 22 June 2008 (UTC).
 * Keep References show it has notability on its own... The fact that this project has its own website, and it's own sponsors seem to point to it being note-worthy seperate from The Oaktree Foundation Mattwikiwiki (talk) 14:28, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


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