Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Schumacher Center for New Economics


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Article's subject is found to be notable. &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 18:06, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Schumacher Center for New Economics

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Has not received significant coverage, in reliable, independent sources. The only references that provide anything close to significant coverage are from the Center's own website. A search for sources resulted in some coverage in self-published sources (blogs), but not much else. While notable people might have spoken at talks hosted by the Center or been involved with the organization, notability is not inherited. Hirolovesswords (talk) 16:12, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Why is this at AFD? It sounds like the nominator is proposing a merge with E.F. Schumacher --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 16:40, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I am not, as Schumacher did not have any involvement with this organization. --Hirolovesswords (talk) 16:53, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
 * The organization looks after his personal library. If this article is deleted that information could be merged to the E F Schumacher page.Jonpatterns (talk) 14:08, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  Everymorning   talk  16:44, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - In the early 2010s the E F Schumacher Society split into Schumacher Center for New Economics and the New Economy Coalition (NEC). The former's work has been in the public eye more and is worth keeping for the BerkShare scheme alone.  The NEC could be merged to this page. Jonpatterns (talk) 11:15, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment - I've expanded the history and added some 'reliable' sources.  Maybe New Economy Coalition and Schumacher Center for a New Economics should be merged? Jonpatterns (talk) 14:08, 17 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Merge to E.F. Schumacher. It is not yet notable enough to have a standalone article. The new sources don't mention the library or think tank by name. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 15:10, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
 * These four do mention the society by name (remember it used to be called the E F Schumacher Society) -
 * ref ref ref ref Jonpatterns (talk) 15:22, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
 * These mention the think tank in passing, they are about one aspect of its work, and speak to the notablility of BerkShares and possibly of the notability of its CEO. I am personally disappointed that Wikipedia cannot have a separate article on the center, due to the lack of substantial independent sources, but I think all the content is relevant to Wikipedia, and can be usefully included in E.F. Schumacher or BerkShares articles. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 14:34, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
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 * Keep - seems to have undergone quite a few changes since nomination, and to be notable enough according the references. Greenman (talk) 20:13, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. The only mainstream, reliable source cited is NYT, which mentions it in passing. I don't see how this passes Notability (organizations). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  14:37, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
 * There was already Yale and Berkshire Trade and Commerce. I've now added Time and Forbes. Jonpatterns (talk) 17:12, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment After doing more research I believe the New Economy Coalition (NEC) project was set up by the Schumacher Society for a New Economics (SSNE) (and the New Economics Foundation) rather than the other way around. This means much of the history should be moved to the SSNE page - ref Job add including NEC history.Jonpatterns (talk) 20:47, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 01:01, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment - I've added some more 'reliable' sources including PBS and Huffington.Jonpatterns (talk) 15:06, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, N ORTH A MERICA 1000 00:56, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment From lack of discussion or comments on improvements it seems the AfD nominator has abandoned the request. Jonpatterns (talk) 08:16, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Deletion requests are not "abandoned" - it seems to me that the nominator just felt like he said what he had to say. Also, please refrain from double - !voting, as a careless observer could think there are three keep mentions from distincts editors.
 * I do not see how your piling up on links has established notability. Tigraan (talk) 13:21, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I've changed the second 'vote' of keep to comment.Jonpatterns (talk) 14:27, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I have NOT. I still do not believe notability has been demonstrated. "Improvements" do not show any significant coverage of the organization. Please do not speak for me, especially when I have made my opinion on this article clear. --Hirolovesswords (talk) 13:11, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment The organisation has been influential in developing economic methods, it as set up a local currency and runs a library containing E F Schumacher's personal library among other projects. It has received coverage by PBS, Huffington Post, Time and Forbes. Additionally, Yale has published its works. Jonpatterns (talk) 14:32, 3 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep There seems to be enough information for an article. DGG (at NYPL) -- reply here 20:26, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
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