Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Scott Banister (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 06:03, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Scott Banister
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Previously soft-deleted in 2021. Current form has lousy sourcing, most of which isn't even about him at all. Could find no better sources. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 03:32, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 03:32, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Missouri-related deletion discussions. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 03:32, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment — I realized in reviewing this article that sources from NYT, WaPo and WSJ are behind paywalls. I first added relevant text in the quote parameters for those sources to make them more accessible for verification. Then I checked the Internet Archive and discovered that NYT and WaPo, at least, are fully archived, so I "rescued" those articles, leaving the quoted material in the articles' references for convenience.
 * I agree that the sourcing for Banister's bio is was somewhat thin. The Forbes source is more about the "soft porn" site Zivity than about Banister, and the Rand Paul/Ted Cruz donations are little more than passing mentions. I did find a FoxNews interview, a primary source that I added as an external link.
 * Clearly, Cyan Banister has had/sought far more coverage, and I began to think perhaps the two articles should be merged to "Cyan and Scott Banister". But I came across this and this, and concluded a merge would not be appropriate. Not exactly verklempt, more like meh. So...

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   06:48, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep based on three sources: The Ali Partovi piece in TechCrunch, the James Gleick NYT piece, and the Robert Guth WSJ source, each providing coverage that in my opinion meets the WP:N policy definition: "Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail... Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material. — Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 04:40, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I found two book sources, Jimmy Soni's 2022 book, The Founders: The Story of Paypal and the Entrepreneurs Who Shaped Silicon Valley and Michael Ellsberg's The Education of Millionaires, Everything You Won't Learn in College About How to Be Successful. Both have enough text visible on Google Books to be useful for verification, and I now have Soni's book on Kindle, so will add more from that source as I have time. A third source is a 2012 Master's Thesis from Universidade Católica Portuguesa, so less reliable for our purposes that turns out to have cited sources already used in this article. Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 22:36, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Member of the Paypal Mafia. Good enough for me. — Sean Brunnock (talk) 21:57, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. I knew Scott at UIUC and he is worth knowing about. 2604:2D80:DF03:4D00:81B7:B27D:1E2A:970C (talk) 04:18, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment Maybe I'm paranoid, but there may be an effort to erase Scott Banister from Wikipedia. An article about his first company, Submit It! was PROD'd a few days ago and his entry in Paypal Mafia was deleted previously . — Sean Brunnock (talk) 13:32, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , it looks like his removal from Paypal Mafia was a misguided deletion, rather than a de-linking, after the first "soft delete" of the Scott Banister bio 15 months ago. According to the PROD of Submit It!, there were only primary sources. I have created a new Submit It! article, so feel free to add content there if you like. Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 19:34, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   08:48, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment — I found 2 more relevant sources and referenced them in the article, bringing the total of RS to seven, in case anyone is counting:
 * 1) A look at the PayPal Mafia’s continued impact on Silicon Valley
 * 2) E-strategists: They are the brains behind successful e-commerce projects, the ultimate pitchmen. Consider the experiences of Scott Banister
 * — Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 21:46, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep per the sources linked. Scorpions13256 (talk) 20:22, 21 April 2022 (UTC)


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