Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Scott Cullather


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. NativeForeigner Talk/Contribs 00:28, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Scott Cullather

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Contested PROD - Non-notable per WP:BIO, no significant coverage online from WP:Reliable sources, strong WP:Conflict of interest by creator. Codf1977 (talk) 16:28, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:26, 17 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi Codf1977 - I wanted to start the discussion with you about the current status of the article I wrote on Scott Cullather. I tried to keep the article factual and notable, while nonpromotional, and I as well as other editors have made changes to make it more notable. One of the other issues with the page was the sources. The flag claims that the entry is lacking reputable sources. However, the references included are from influential, well-known event industry publications. Those people that pay close attention to the live events industry and read about it in industry magazines will see how Scott is frequently interviewed and quoted.


 * My hope is that we can keep this conversation going so that I can clean the page up to the point where it won't be deleted and it will meet all Wikipedia's guidelines for being an informative, useful article. I'd love to incorporate specific feedback you have about the page so it will better conform to guidelines. Thanks! Andrew rodger (talk) 19:54, 17 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Weak Delete - simply not enough coverage to substantiate notability. One nomination for an Emmy is not enough to confer notability on a subject. Andrew rodger, the problem essentially concerns whether there is significant coverage in reliable sources of Cullather - at the moment, it seems clear that there's coverage in reliable sources, but it's simply not significant enough. Claritas § 20:01, 17 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your feedback Claritas. How much more coverage would make the cut as "significant"? I'm trying to keep the article short and factual and it has eight references from reliable resources (including NYTimes.com). Thanks! Andrew rodger (talk) 21:17, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
 * "sources address the subject directly in detail are needed, so no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention but it need not be the main topic of the source material." - Claritas § 07:12, 18 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete - Note that the article was speedied G11 (blatant spam) the day before, after its creation by the same editor. This version is toned down a bit, but notability per WP:BIO has not been established, and I can find no significant coverage online from WP:Reliable sources. The two new editors who've contributed this time are WP:Single purpose accounts, and two accounts bear the names of staff from Matter Communications, a P.R. firm that handles communications for the subject and his company inVNT : an evident strong WP:Conflict of interest. This alone isn't grounds for deletion, but it explains the WP:PROMO marketing tone. Empty Buffer (talk) 22:24, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment : There is also a AfD on his company inVNT Articles for deletion/InVNT. Codf1977 (talk) 16:54, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete doesn't seem too notable, i.e. hasn't achieved much of note (despite the mentioned sources). Also reads like a promo piece. --Errant Tmorton166(Talk) 17:10, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment : should also add that Andrew rodger, the editor who created the article has confirmed (see here) that he works for inVNT's PR agency. Codf1977 (talk) 18:09, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails notability. -- Ja Ga  talk 22:42, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
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