Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Scott Horvath


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The result was Keep. JERRY talk contribs 04:34, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Scott Horvath

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Non-notable player, fails the criteria for notability in WP:HOCKEY. Low-round draftee, played only three mediocre seasons in the low minors.  RGTraynor  07:13, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep: Unfortunately WP:BIO overrules and he meets the criteria there by having played in a fully professional league (the ECHL). --JD554 (talk) 08:16, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Even though the ECHL is considered a pro league, it still is a "tier" below the AHL. By using that argument, you can give every ECHL player a wikipedia entry, and that would be an awful idea. -RiverHockey (talk) 18:35, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: Then you need to try and get consensus on Wikipedia talk:Notability (people) to change the criteria for sports people.--JD554 (talk) 20:07, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I do believe thats in the process of happening. Creating precedents doesn't hurt either... --Djsasso (talk) 20:42, 15 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Hockey-related deletion discussions.   —JD554 (talk) 08:20, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - per WP:HOCKEY's own criteria for inclusion. He played 3 seasons in the ECHL and 2 in the UHL which is now the IHL.  Thus meets the criteria Played five or more seasons, and at least 100 games, in a fully professional minor league such as the American Hockey League, the International Hockey League, the ECHL, the Mestis, the HockeyAllsvenskan or other such league. --Pparazorback (talk) 12:42, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: he only played three pro seasons: 2003-04 for both Toledo and Atlantic City (both in ECHL), 2004-05 for Atlantic City (ECHL) and Missouri (UHL) then 2005-06 for Port Huron(UHL).--JD554 (talk) 13:00, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Change to Delete - per WP:HOCKEY's own criteria for inclusion, Did not meet criteria since he did not play five or more years in a fully professional minor league. That is why you do not do research 5 minutes after waking up, Thanks for the correction, JD554. -Pparazorback (talk) 00:13, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Non-notable minor player who barely even got within 3 levels of the highest level of the sport, and as JD mentioned, only played less than 3 full seasons with the teams he did play for. -Djsasso (talk) 14:30, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak keep per WP:NOT. While he only played three pro seasons, he does meet WP:BIO. While that introduces notability for thousands upon thousands of minor league atheletes who are otherwise forgettable, there is no harm in keeping the article per current guidelines. Resolute 15:40, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - Policy (WP:BIO) trumps projects (WP:HOCKEY) every time. - fchd (talk) 20:50, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:BIO isn't policy, it's a guideline, and the difference is that a guideline can be much more loosely bent, ie a project's guideline.  Maxim (talk)  23:45, 18 January 2008 (UTC)


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