Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Scott Menville


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. J04n(talk page) 12:04, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Scott Menville

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The content and notability of this article is being disputed. Article has recently been in a reversion Wheel war. 201.229.38.2 (talk) 14:13, 25 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep : Not sure if he passes WP:CREATIVE for the acting and music, but is explicitly presumed to be notable as an MLB pitcher, per WP:MLB/N . (And I assume you mean edit warring, not wheel warring? No worries, though.)  — PinkAmpers   &#38;   ( Je vous invite à me parler )  14:48, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Dumb of me to not verify the grounds of my "keep" !vote. Switching to undecided for now. Is not listed on the Orioles roster, so I'll agree with Inks.LWC that that part seems to be a hoax (and not even the worst hoax I've seen this week), but there's barely enough notable stuff on his IMDb page to keep me from flat out switching to delete. I'll probably !vote again once the arguments for actual notability have been made. — PinkAmpers   &#38;   ( Je vous invite à me parler )  08:32, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep The nominating IP should not resort to putting an article up for AfD because he is involved in an edit war; however, there is no evidence that the subject of the article is an MLB pitcher, and I can find nothing on Google saying he is. Inks.LWC (talk) 16:08, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * That was my fault; I wanted to unaccept that revision (as the article is currently under pending changes protection) but seem to have pressed the wrong button. - a boat   that can float!   (watch me float)  18:17, 25 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete unless baseball information can be verified. Much of the other stuff is borderline.  209.88.130.87 (talk) 00:05, 26 January 2013 (UTC) — 209.88.130.87 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment- I'm not going to make this an official keep vote (althought that's certainly what I think should be done) because I can't find any sourcing offhand. But I find it exceedingly hard to imagine that a man with such an extensive list of voice credits would be non-notable. Although where that part about being a baseball pitcher came from I have absolutely no idea. Umbralcorax (talk) 13:28, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Subject's baseball career is a hoax.  201.229.14.178 (talk) 17:21, 27 January 2013 (UTC) — 201.229.14.178 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * The BASEBALL stuff was vandalism. His VOICE ACTING career, however, is real. Umbralcorax (talk) 00:46, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment Note that the delete votes left from dynamical IPs most likely belong to the same person, which was already blocked for edit warring in the article (from yet a different IP).--Ymblanter (talk) 11:59, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per recent AFDs against other voice actors. 64.134.184.208 (talk) 16:58, 28 January 2013 (UTC) — 64.134.184.208 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:12, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete per above — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.59.51.4 (talk) 19:10, 29 January 2013 — 206.59.51.4 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * delete. Ask the man on the street who this person is and they'd say they don't know.  Notability means is he person is well known then he or she can have his or her own article.  207.218.44.2 (talk) 13:52, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Ask the man on the street who Hans Multhopp is, and they'll say they don't know. That doesn't make him non-notable. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:23, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:ANYBIO (2 Young Artist Awards nominations in 1988 = WP:NTEMP) and for his incredible body of work from at least 1979 to present meeting WP:ENT... a verifiable body of work as a voice artist and his having significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions.  We do not care about what might or might not have happened to other articles on voice artists with lesser careers, nor do we care if some "man on the street" may not know his name.  We're here to inform those who may not "know". Various SPAs and miscellaneous one-time-IPs !voting in this discussion, and edit warring aside, we cannot discount the notability guidelines this man meets. What the article does need, and is properly tagged for, are sources to confirm the work, but addressable issues are rarely cause for deletion. I strongly urge that the article be semi-protected to prevent continued warring.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 02:15, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment - While I've already !voted, I would like to say that this sums up my thinking precisely. Inks.LWC (talk) 02:47, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom 24.184.197.225 (talk) 16:21, 1 February 2013 (UTC) — 24.184.197.225 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete unless content can be verified. United States Man (talk) 19:06, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment - I have added 5 newspaper sources, including one from USA Today. While the article still needs a lot of sourcing, I think it is now sufficient to at least be kept. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Inks.LWC (talk • contribs) 23:16, 1 February 2013
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 01:04, 2 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep - if 170+ TV, movie and video game credits ( as per IMDB ) don't make a person notable, then I don't know what does. Ezhuks (talk) 11:57, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep- Changing my reaction from just a comment to a keep. The sourcing added has convinced me. Umbralcorax (talk) 13:49, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete- I have no experience with this area, but from reading similar articles in the Basketball and Politics portals, this article is nothing but WP:PUFF, WP:TRIVIALMENTION, WP:BLP1E, and WP:PROMO. Utterly fails WP:GNG and WP:NATHLETE. --184.6.222.14 (talk) 17:20, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Your editing as IP 184.6.222.14 only since January 20, 2013 and your granting "no experience with this area" is perhaps the inadvertent cause for your confusing the issue at hand. There is no need to discount this man under WP:POLITICIAN or WP:ATH, as we do not have any assertion of notability for his being a politician or an athlete. And please, his having a voice artist career spanning over 30 years and nearly 200 projects is hardly a BLP1E. What you need to understand is that in the lack of SIGCOV, the SNG WP:ENT allows us other considerations when it tells us we may gauge notability by the verifiability of a person having "significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions." This is explained in more detail in the essay WP:GNGACTOR.  And please understand that  WP:FILMOGRAPHY tells us it is appropriate to list an entertainer's more notable projects for the sake of expanding a reader's understanding of the topic... without such information then being called WP:PUFF.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 00:49, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. It's a Fox! (Talk to me?) 03:19, 7 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep It seems as though by reading some comments that WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS is being used as a reason to get this article deleted. It seems as though what is being said is "similar articles were deleted, so this one should be too."  With so many actors and voice credits to his name, I also find it difficult to see how he isn't notable.   Mr. C.C. Hey yo!I didn't do it! 18:59, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep There are hundreds of secondary sources for his voice work. Granted, more news articles would be nice, but he is better sourced on internet cast lists than many voice actors, stage actors and film actors with articles here.  GenQuest  "Talk to Me" 08:23, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
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