Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Scott Mulholland


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  00:32, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Scott Mulholland

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WP:N. I can find no significant coverage outside of QPR fansites and blogs Ddawkins73 (talk) 18:44, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


 * There is a lack of significant coverage; he mostly receives short mentions John Vandenberg (chat) 19:27, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 22:20, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Clearly fails WP:ATHLETE --Badmotorfinger (talk) 22:40, 15 February 2009 (UTC) Keep. Didn't realize he had played for QPR's first team... --Badmotorfinger (talk) 22:51, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. He passes WP:ATHLETE because he played in a Football League Championship match (second level of English football), but coverage of the player specifically is sporadic beyond match reports of that one game, meaning there is a concern re WP:N. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 22:43, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep per Football League Championship match. -- Agathoclea (talk) 22:47, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - he fails WP:N, and passes WP:ATHLETE just because of one single game. I don't think 21 minutes of Championship football are enough to turn a non-notable subject into a notable one. --Angelo (talk) 23:01, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Notable as a FL player. ArtVandelay13 (talk) 23:02, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Though he passes WP:Athlete, he clearly fails the general notability guidelines (#1 - "Significant coverage" means that sources address the subject directly in detail) None of the sources (including others I found online) address the player in detail, describing him only in terms of coming on as a sub. Has not achieved success at any other football league side; suggesting that the player will not meet notability requirements as a footballer. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 23:26, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:00, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep passes WP:ATHLETE. Needs improving though. GiantSnowman 01:45, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. Although it passes notability with the Championship match, it does need a wider variety of sources. Eddie6705 (talk) 13:27, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. I really can't believe the difference we get in reactions to AfDs about American sportspeople and others. We get people arguing for inclusion of articles on amateur American footballers, but here we have a player who has played in a league that has two more fully professional levels below it, and there are people calling for deletion. WP:ATHLETE sets a useful pragmatic notability level that avoids us having to spend ages debating every individual case. Let's keep it that way. Phil Bridger (talk) 20:35, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete it really need sources, thus it fails our notabilty guidelines, which trumps WP:ATHLETE easily. Sources were searched for, but couldn't be found, so this isn't a case of (find sources and cleanup). Also I'm one of the few who vote delete for those of American sportspeople. Sources are everything. Secret account 22:45, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * If an article that passes WP:ATHLETE still needs to additionally pass the general notability guideline, doesn't that render WP:ATHLETE completely redundant.....? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:48, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
 * both are guidelines. Agathoclea (talk) 10:12, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
 * ATHLETE, like BIO is used as a additional guideline for borderline WP:N cases, it still needs to meet the sourcing guidelines. Secret account 13:51, 17 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep as he passes WP:ATHLETE (just), although the article needs improving. The soccerbase reference is sufficient to show that he did play professional football at the second highet level in England. Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 07:40, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


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