Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Scott Presler (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Consensus appears to be that sourcing is insufficient Star   Mississippi  02:48, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Scott Presler
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Proposed deletion for lack of notability. Citations in the article are covering a trash cleanups he organized in Baltimore. This article was deleted in 2019 Articles for deletion/Scott Presler  Dr vulpes  (💬 • 📝) 23:03, 27 June 2022 (UTC)


 * I can expand the article, I just got it started as a jumping off point. I was not aware that there was a previous version of this article that was deleted, so my apologies for not taking note of that! I do think the trash cleanups were a very significant event that generated enough headlines to warrant notability. I've seen Presler pop up over the past couple of years in Fox, The Daily Beast, The Baltimore Sun, The New York Post, and the Washington Post. I will be adding more to the article, but I do believe that when all is said and done, the article will meet the standards of "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." GeorgeBailey (talk) 00:20, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for replying to this @GeorgeBailey. Here are some of the notability guidelines used for articles about people, these are what I used when establishing if the article was notable. Notability and Notability (people). Before I nominated this article I looked at a couple articles in the American political activists category and compared the types of sources cited in those articles to the ones I found covering Presler and I didn't think it passed the requirements for notability. I tried to look into his work with Rise PAC but couldn't find much of their website or by searching Google News. I gave it a good try when I was looking but it's completely possible that I missed something.  Dr vulpes  (💬 • 📝) 01:32, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Of note is that the "F it, delete" !vote and notions therein such as "started to edit and expand but got a revert", "seems like there would be no negotiation that would lead to anything" and "It's not a battle that I feel like fighting" are not based upon Wikipedia's deletion policy. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 03:30, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Conservatism, Politics,  and Maryland.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:27, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as a Baltimorian, I can say he is a nobody who showed up to get his 15 minutes of fame. As a Wikipedian, he's also a nobody and isn't notable. There is no in depth coverage, nothing sustained and he fails GNG (and whatever niche n criteria you want to throw in there. PRAXIDICAE🌈 18:34, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
 * F it, delete. Started to edit and expand but got a revert from the above user. The language above seems like there would be no negotiation that would lead to anything. It's not a battle that I feel like fighting. Dr vulpes, you can blank it. GeorgeBailey (talk) 22:47, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
 * You can expand it and work on it while it's at AFD, but without removing the notice. PRAXIDICAE🌈 22:49, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * @Northamerica1000 when I looked at the revert I felt it was mostly appropriate then inappropriate, they were putting the AfD notice back as it had been removed.  Dr vulpes  (💬 • 📝) 04:59, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Unsure if the references are more than passing mentions. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 03:31, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Not notable fails GNG. Henriklars (talk) 08:20, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: I'm very much not a fan of his politics, but he's a pretty notable Trump supporter to the extent multiple publications have written about his rallies (or cancelled rallies) and consulting. If you search "The Persistence", you'll get a bit more to push him over WP:GNG. Alternatively, there could be an article called Influencer support for Donald Trump where this could be merged as a section, but seeing as that article is yet to exist, keep per passing WP:GNG. (Here's my sources to attest to GNG of some sort: Lightning-rod Trump supporter Scott Presler's rally canceled in Wilton – Times-Union, Scott Presler appearance cancelled for third time – Times-Union, Newest House GOP Star Teams Up With Nutty MAGA Conspiracy Theorist – Daily Beast, Grassroots and global players: The crowded campaign to oust Cheney – Wyoming Tribune Eagle). I think the article could benefit from adding his work with Elise Stefanik but if possible from a source other than the Daily Beast per WP:DAILYBEAST. TartarTorte 19:24, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I would argue that those are mostly just passing mentions at best. PRAXIDICAE🌈 19:31, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I think that three of the four (the one about the third cancelled rally being excluded) are all articles that provide WP:SIGCOV. In the case of the first Times–Union article, the article talks about both him and officials reaction to him. In the case of the Daily Beast article, the article highlights his involvement with Rep. Stefanik and his extremism/rejection of reality (re: "Stop the Steal"). The third article covers a rally from Cheyenne in which he was the main speaker. I will say; I find that none of the articles provide that much different information on him, but they all seem to pass WP:SIGCOV in my eyes. TartarTorte 19:44, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah that was my problem when looking for sources. There are a lot out there but they just say he's at a rally or something kind of minor. I was really hopeful that Rise PAC would have more information about him so I could tie that into the article but I got stuck there as well.  Dr vulpes  (💬 • 📝) 20:02, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


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