Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Scott Rates (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Sarahj2107 (talk) 14:23, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Scott Rates
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Non notable journalist. All refs press releases, WP:ROUTINE, affiliated sources, or minor in passing references mentioning him as the reporter on the scene. ResultingConstant (talk) 14:31, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
 * This nomination calls this topic an event. This topic is not an event.  Unscintillating (talk) 14:10, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
 * There is no evidence that the nomination has made an attempt to determine either wp:notability or the alternatives to deletion. Unscintillating (talk) 14:10, 27 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete A non-notable journalist. This article was deleted back in Febuary for the very same reasons.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:40, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Journalism-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 07:20, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 15:20, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. North America1000 16:34, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of News media-related deletion discussions. North America1000 16:35, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
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 * Comment This AfD is the nominator's 20th contribution to Wikipedia and only the second page ever created.  The entire content of the first page created is three letters, diff.  Unscintillating (talk) 14:10, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep I note that the previous AFD nomination states, "...a...news personality".  The statement has already stipulated that the topic is not a hoax, the topic's work is published by a reliable news source on a regular basis, and that they are a "personality".  As per the nutshell of WP:N, notability is understood as the evidence that a topic has attracted the attention of the world-at-large over a period of time.  WP:Notability is not an issue for on-air TV personalities of network affiliates, as on-air personalities attract the attention of the world at large.  In my personal experience, people recall these personalities throughout a lifetime, just as they talk about local malls from many years ago.  The role of the encyclopedia here does not require standalone articles, but until we have staff bio pages for TV stations, and the discipline to cross-link on these pages when the personality changes jobs, standalone articles are the way that our content contributors have to organize this material.  Those who don't like that can get involved in the content contribution for these topics.  Unscintillating (talk) 14:10, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
 * You argue that every journalist is inherently notable even though the only coverage of them is WP:ROUTINE job change announcements? And I note while you chose to dig into my background, you neglected to notice that the author of the article has a major COI with the subject of this article ResultingConstant (talk) 14:23, 27 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nominator. Citobun (talk) 04:50, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete -- a vanity page for an unremarkable news anchor. Sources are insufficient to meet GNG. K.e.coffman (talk) 05:12, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete while vanity pages are sometimes created for notable people, topics that lack articles, Rates appears to be a journeyman newscaster. My searches find ca couple of job transitions briefly covered as industry news  - already on the page, but nothing more, not even the sort of  color stories or stories about charity fundraisers he has co-sponsored that you find for a lot of local news anchors.E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:36, 31 August 2016 (UTC)


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