Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Scott Shields (Bear Search and Rescue)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was DELETE without prejudice to a properly referenced, WP:BLP compliant article being written by a disinterested party. If any experienced wikipedian wants to take this article on, I'll be happy to undelete it, or give them access to the history. -Docg 20:47, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Scott Shields (Bear Search and Rescue)

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Not sure if this article is about Scot Shields the baseball player, full of citiation tags. Tagged with a but removed by an anonymous user. Have your say. BuickCenturyDriver 03:04, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

*Weak keep I have stubbed this article to get of uncited defamatory material. The article is not about the baseball player; it is about a Sept 11 Ground Zero volunteer described here: http://www.bearsearchandrescue.org/. This person is unquestionably notable but the quality problems are so severe that I would not object to deleting it and starting over. Kla'quot 06:10, 11 February 2007 (UTC) Delete unless a person who isn't involved in the situation in real life, and who has experience in following Wikipedia content polcies, offers to rewrite this article exclusively from reliable sources. Many articles which get off to a bad start end up fine, but this article doesn't seem to be going in that direction. Please also consider protecting the article as a non-defamatory stub until contributors come to consensus on Talk about what the reliable sources are for this article. Kla'quot 07:16, 17 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep notable and meets WP:BIO easily. Nuttah68 11:11, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The article looks much better then it was when I nominated. Good work! BuickCenturyDriver 11:27, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep The guy is obviously notable. mrholybrain 's talk 12:48, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Currently the article content is "Scott Shields was a dressmaker from Conneticut. He achieved some moderate fame after responding to the WTC disaster, and wrote the book Bear, Heart of a Hero. [citation needed] In late 2002 Scott Shields started the Bear Search and Rescue Foundation named after his recently deceased dog Bear." which in my mind fails WP:BIO there are 3 references to news articles, the first is about the fraud charges agaisnt the subject of the article, and the other two are about a dog not the subject, so would seem to fail WP:N and WP:V. Jeepday 16:54, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete I vote delete. The guy is notable or infamous however it would be impossible to keep ampartial article here with both factions being able to edit it at their leisure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cloinwalsh (talk • contribs)
 * I'm surprised you want to delete the page since you were the one who launched it. The page was edited with the correct information and that what affects the outcome of this deletion discussion. BuickCenturyDriver 02:59, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I think the article should stay. It is true and my article at http://landofpuregold.com/truthiness.htm supports it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Landofpuregold (talk • contribs) — Landofpuregold (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Delete!!! I am the one that prod'd the original article.  I have been in contact with Scott Shields on this subject and he has been in contact.  The article references/referenced a NY Post article and that article has, at best, flimsy references and BTW, best I can tell, is the only news report on the subject.  If this was a legit issue, more journalists would be reporting on it in various media.  Also, the NY Post is not known more for it's gossip and sports sections than for their hard news dept.  As for the above anonymous poster, you don't offer any real proof, only allegations!  Postcard Cathy 01:15, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * PS THe landofpuregold.com site isn't working right now. Really helpful in verifying your claim! Postcard Cathy 01:19, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

**KEEP!!** Great editing out od defamatory stuff. Much better now. Highly notable on many blog sites and national print news media. A public figure with book authorship on WTC disaster ("Bear: Heart of a Hero"). Especially notable in search and rescue & first responder communities.Princetonpals 03:47, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Welcome to Wikipedia User:Princetonpals I see you have just begun editing, hope the rest of your first day goes well Special:Contributions/Princetonpals Jeepday 04:06, 13 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Merge: If we do end up keeping this, we should merge this to September 11, 2001. If it is indeed kept, it should be renamed Scott Shields (World Trade Center) since that is what he is remembered for. BuickCenturyDriver 11:14, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Great idea Buick. Makes more sense.Princetonpals 21:18, 14 February 2007 (UTC) — Princetonpals (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Comment There seems to be several Single purpose accounts voting and commenting on this article. Jeepday 03:14, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * DELETE . Wikipedia articles about living people can affect the subject's life. Mr Shields may, or may not, leap over the WP:N hurdle, but this article does not, and apparently will not, meet the criteria set out in WP:BLP. Negative articles on living people need to be scrupulously well referenced, and there needs to be a clear case for inclusion. This is a person of quite marginal notability in a Wikipedian sense. On Wikipedia, nil nisi bonum applies to the living, not the dead. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:19, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.