Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Screwed the Pooch

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The result of the debate was delete. – ABCD✉ 23:54, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Screwed the Pooch
A slang dicdef. Already successfully transwikied. If this cannot feasibly be expanded beyond a dicdef it should be deleted. GarrettTalk 03:07, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, unless somebody can expand it into something about the Family Guy episode. — Ливай | Ⓣ 03:12, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep We have articles about Family Guy episodes, and that's how I primarily view this article. Even so, the rest isn't just a dicdef but describes the origins of the phrase.  CanadianCaesar 03:27, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete drini &#9742; 03:30, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep, not as a Family Guy episode, but as a legit phrase. Sure, the page is a tad dicdeffy, but as a legitimate figure of speech with a fascinating etymology, "Screwed the pooch" (which has been around for much longer that FG (first USENET, 1985) and is used frequently enough to warrant its continued inclusion) has potential for further expansion.  --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 03:34, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete without prejudice against recreation as an article about the Family Guy episode. android  79  03:47, July 25, 2005 (UTC) WP:WINAD
 * Strong keep. It can very easily be expanded beyond dicdef if someone can produce the origin or history of the term.  Forget the Family Guy business -- this term is interesting and relevant. - Che Nuevara, the Democratic Revolutionary 05:50, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. I believe the expression "screw the pooch" may have originated (or at least become common) among NASA test pilots and reached the general public through Tom Wolfe's book The Right Stuff. --Metropolitan90 06:24, July 25, 2005 (UTC)  (Sorry, I reiterated some of what was already in the article.) --Metropolitan90 06:28, July 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge with an article on the slang term Screw, which is referenced in the disambiguation page, but doesn't exist. Screw is identifiably different from, though related to, other terms. A history of the term could be a good article, one particular phrase isn't. Stirling Newberry 06:32, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete tasteless vulgarity, non notable. Klonimus 06:55, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... if tasteless vulgarity translates to non notability, we should be VfDing nigger. CanadianCaesar 07:01, 25 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Strong keep This is not just an article about the Family Guy episode. It also contains information about where the phrase initially originated. Even though it may be slang, there are various other slang terms in Wikipedia. User:ScrewedThePooch 8:03, 35 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete: Already transwiki'd.  Those longing for the loving discussion of the word should go to Wiktionary to do so.  On Wikipedia, encyclopedic content counts, not lexical content.  The term is very old, of course.  It hit the popular culture throught Tom Wolfe's The Right Stuff and the movie version of it.  It's the punchline to a farmer's daughter joke.  Make sure you didn't screw the pooch.  From that, it has become a common term for "mess up."  Well, see, that's not hard, is it?  Purely dictionary work and purely not apt for Wikipedia. Geogre 15:15, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, dictdef. What is with people saying "strong" next to their votes?  Are they supposed to count double?  Tempshill 17:49, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
 * No, it just indicates that they are unlikely to be persuaded to change their minds, and that they have a strong opinion about this. WP:GVFD is clear that strong/weak do not make any difference when it comes to closing the debate (from a vote-count point-of-view, which isn't all that matters anyway).-Splash 18:14, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete dicdef, already transwikied, no encyc content beyond that. -Splash 18:14, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia is not a dictionary. --Carnildo 22:56, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete dicdef CDC   (talk)  23:26, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete dicdef. DS1953 03:28, July 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. This article can be expanded in two directions. If and when this is expanded into a full Family Guy article, the dicdef should also be mentioned to avoid confused readers. Agentsoo 10:31, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete slang dicdef. JamesBurns 07:42, 27 July 2005 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.