Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Scylla (Prison Break) (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Mgm|(talk) 09:27, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Scylla (Prison Break)
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No real world notability. No references nor trusted third party sources. It's a plot device of a tv series features only in some episodes of season 4. The subject is covered satisfyingly in episode articles and in The Company (Prison Break). Magioladitis (talk) 10:27, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Due to lack of tag in the talk page I haven't noticed that this article has already been deleted via AfD and recreated. The difference is that the first article was referring to an episode of the series and this one about a plot device. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:29, 17 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 12:36, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep The season 4 episode Scylla did in fact air, addressing the concerns of the first AfD. This article should be kept along with all the other episode articles linked to in Prison Break (season 4), and rewritten to focus on the episode.  I don't think an article on Scylla, the plot device, needs to exist, but if it does exist it should be under a different name.  Baileypalblue (talk)  —Preceding undated comment was added at 13:08, 17 January 2009 (UTC).
 * The AfD is for the plot device and not the episode. -- Magioladitis (talk) 01:09, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Weak keep or merge to Company (Prison Break). It seems to be a pretty major plot device in the fourth season, and from what I can tell the Prison Break series already has a pretty large number of articles on characters and obscure things that aren't notable in the real world.  If we want to delete this, there should probably also be an overhaul of the whole set of Prison Break articles; that's not to say that this shouldn't be deleted, but just that if it is deleted, it should be part of a larger coordinated cleanup that might need more input than just this AfD. Politizer talk / contribs 19:00, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * This cleanup is in progress. All minor characters have already been merged in a single article and we are now doing the same for the main article. (I am participating in it using the talk pages, etc.) This AfD concerns only the specific plot device and the speicifc article that has nothing to be merged that it's not already in better articles. -- Magioladitis (talk) 01:12, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with merging, then, or with deleting if all the useful content has already been merged (either way it's still a merge, just a difference between whether the merge happened before or after I !voted). Politizer talk / contribs 00:00, 23 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –Juliancolton Tropical  Cyclone  00:20, 22 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete as any such info. is easily handled by further developing the plot summaries at Prison Break (season 4); this page is just WP:SYNTH (e.g., what's the source for "Scylla drives the story for season 4"). JJL (talk) 01:14, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep probably could be found, there's lots of comment on the series. But, more to the point, the purpose of a plot summary at wp is to talk comprehensively but concisely about the plot. I interpret this operationally as meaning that if I didn't see the episode, I could learn enough to discuss it with someone who did. The descriptions in the episode list are from this standpoint inadequate and nonencyclopedic. It doesn't really matter how we divide things up, if we write them adequately (not excessively like a fan wiki line by line through the show, but adequately). I think the present article comes nearer -- or, at least, its easier to condense than to expand the ones in the list.DGG (talk) 05:16, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete or redirect to The Company (Prison Break) Only plot information is there, and plus the season four section of The Company article covers the subject a little more, last time I checked. -- Matthew R Dunn (talk) 14:55, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge to wherever editors find most meaningful In any case, this should be an editorial decision discussed on a talk page. AfD doesn't make sense, especially since the article will clearly be kept as a redirect at the very least. Pascal.Tesson (talk) 22:54, 22 January 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.