Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sean Ali Stone


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The result was   keep. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 00:54, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Sean Ali Stone

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Non-notable actor. Being the son of a famous person doesn't make you famous. There are a few news articles about his being a Muslim and his political activism, but that doesn't necessarily make him notable. The Mark of the Beast (talk) 22:00, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
 * You're right that having a famous daddy isn't enough, but if being in the news almost constantly doesn't make a person notable, what does?
 * He's all over the news. His fame may not last long, but right now, as much coverage as he is getting in all news media, it's hard to believe he's not notable enough to have a WP article. If he drops out of the news completely, maybe delete the article then, but not yet.--Jim10701 (talk) 14:05, 22 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - Search him and he generously comes up. Too soon to delete. Basileias (talk) 14:45, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 15:11, 23 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete, essentially per WP:NOTINHERITED. As for 'he's all over the news' - see WP:109PAPERS and WP:BLP1E. The fact that much of the media is talking about someone at the moment does not necessarily make them notable by our standards. Notability is not temporary; it means lasting fame, and requires coverage over a significant period of time. This guy might qualify at some point, but he hasn't yet. (See also: WP:CRYSTAL.) Robofish (talk) 23:30, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, henrik  • talk  19:08, 29 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep saw him on the news seems notable enough, has notable opinions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.177.4.22 (talk) 13:21, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
 * "Seems" is not a valid proof of notability. What sources do you have?  The Mark of the Beast (talk) 19:05, 1 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep Check these independent and famous news websites that have an article dedicated to him: http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?ID=258904&R=R1   http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/wood_snubs_muslim_stone_AxID3XZz34PKvRRtbWOQMK   http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/17/us-seanstone-conversion-islam-idUSTRE81G1O020120217   http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/shortcuts/2012/feb/15/sean-stone-muslim-religion-hollywood  Kazemita1 (talk) 22:35, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep -- I do not see cause for deletion. Stopde (talk) 11:06, 4 March 2012 (UTC)




 * Keep That media always want to include that he is Oliver Stone's son who has converted to Islam is what they do to create headlines... and shame on them. However, in searches without that "Ali" in the paramerter, we can see that he IS getting coverage for what he is doing, and that despite his being Oly's son, he IS receiving coverage in multiple reliable sources over a years-long period. So in spite of his father and his conversion, his career as an actor, producer, screenwriter, and cinematographer is not quite a simple recentism WP:BLP1E blip on the scope dependent on WP:INHERITED.... and is in fact a meeting of WP:GNG and WP:ENT and pushing nicely at WP:FILMMAKER. I would though suggest that after being kept, the article be expanded to use less recent sources to be more comprehensive of his career and films.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 09:36, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
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