Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seaport (New York City Subway station)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Second Avenue Subway. only nom is not in favor of redirect JForget  00:27, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Seaport (New York City Subway station)

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This is a proposed station on the Second Avenue Subway in Lower Manhattan and is not one of the stations that are being constructed now. That station is in Phase IV, which would be the last portion of the route to receive funding, and we're only at Phase I after so many years. So WP:CRYSTAL applies here. Tinlinkin (talk) 22:13, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Past precedent is at Articles for deletion/Hanover Square Station. Tinlinkin (talk) 22:58, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Second Avenue Subway, until it's built. DanTD (talk) 00:20, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
 * But it may never be built, so even a redirect is inappropriate. It's just an "item from a predetermined list or a systematic pattern of names, pre-assigned to future events or discoveries", to quote from WP:CRYSTAL. There is no start date, thus the station is in a speculative phase. Tinlinkin (talk) 02:37, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
 * From what I've read, it looks like they're finally going through with the line after 80 years of planning it. Deleting this and any other future station article will take a lot of information away if the MTA decides to go through with building it. That's why I didn't likew the idea of deleting Hanover Square Station. DanTD (talk) 12:58, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Until there is more information, what historical information in the current station article couldn't be recreated later from the Second Avenue Subway article? Tinlinkin (talk) 06:09, 5 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:33, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:33, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Second Avenue Subway, until it's built as per DanTD. It looks like it will be built.  Some users are under the impression that WP:CRYSTAL means that all projects that don't exist or are proposed cannot have articles.  In fact, proposed projects can be notable (see California High-Speed Rail and Vilnius Tram Project for examples).  WP:CRYSTAL applies to topics that have potential to pass WP:N but currently don't.  That's not the case with this topic.--Oakshade (talk) 19:42, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
 * There is nothing particularly special or extraordinary about this station, other than the location is planned out. And there is nothing about this current Seaport station article that can't be easily rewritten about in the future. Your two examples and Second Avenue Subway (as a whole) have history, the single station does not. I don't know the contents of the deleted Seaport Station, but they had to be as rudimentary as this article is. Tinlinkin (talk) 06:09, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Second Avenue Subway. Phase 1, 63rd Street to 96th Street is currently under construction. This is a Phase 4 station that is likely MANY years away. Therefore, there is no need for a station article until it is actually under construction. (All known and verifiable information about the Seaport station can be found in the SAS article anyway.) Acps110 (talk • contribs) 18:00, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect per WP:CHEAP and WP:CRYSTAL. That way its history stays visible to those who know. Bearian (talk) 17:35, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * As I said above, what history is there that can't be recreated later? Tinlinkin (talk) 06:09, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect. Redirects are cheap, and Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. —Preceding unsigned comment added by T3h 1337 b0y (talk • contribs) 04:07, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.