Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seattle Sounders FC Academy (2nd nomination)


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The result was merge to Seattle Sounders FC. (non-admin closure) – Davey 2010 Talk 23:35, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Seattle Sounders FC Academy
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Resubmitting this article for deletion discussion. My first suggestion that this league was a youth league was proven wrong, fair enough, it's an academy league. But I honestly do not believe that a 4th tier, amateur-level US soccer/football academy league meets WP:GNG standards on its own. Here are my arguments against this: Now, I can agree with the opinion and would even support a Merge of this content to its respective parent club page. But on its own, this page fails. SanAnMan (talk) 19:49, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) Per Notability (sports), all sports teams must meet Notability (organizations and companies) requirements, so my following points will discuss those aspects.
 * 2) Notability is not inherent. Arguments against this deletion often stated that "the consensus was that academy leagues are notable." Per policy: "If the individual organization has received no or very little notice from independent sources, then it is not notable simply because other individual organizations of its type are commonly notable or merely because it exists" Practically all sources given for this academy team are local in nature, not regional nor national.
 * 3) Notability is not inherited. There is not an argument that this academy league is indeed affiliated with its respective parent club, and it may have indeed produced notable players, but that does not, by definition, make the academy club itself notable.
 * 4) Fails depth of coverage. Multiple, independent sources have not been cited to establish notability of this academy league. Again, sources are local to the team.
 * 5) Fails local unit notability. Direct quote from this rule: "the individual chapters of national and international organizations are usually not considered notable enough to warrant a separate article - unless they are substantially discussed by reliable independent sources that extend beyond the chapter's local area."
 * Merge Per nom, merge into Seattle Sounders FC. Comatmebro  User talk:Comatmebro 22:58, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Merge into Seattle Sounders FC. That's what's generally done with other youth academies unless they can stand on their own. Smartyllama (talk) 14:28, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Washington-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 03:02, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 03:02, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone  08:24, 8 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Merge into parent article - but please note it's an academy team, not an academy league... GiantSnowman 08:51, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Merge into Seattle Sounders FC. If/when the club meets the requirements of WP:FOOTYN, then the article can be recreated. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 09:07, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Merge into Seattle Sounders FC - no indication of separate GNG-level notability. Fenix down (talk) 17:34, 10 October 2016 (UTC)


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