Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seb Webber


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The result was keep - The article needs tidying up alot but notability is there. (non-admin closure) – Davey 2010 •  (talk)  07:48, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Seb Webber

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Promotional article that fails WP:ANYBIO. Johny 547 (talk) 09:30, 30 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Weak delete - I don't know what the author was thinking about, but this is evidently very poorly sourced indeed, relying extensively on an interview in a music blog, but also record slevenotes, a press release and other unreliable sources. If he's "Best known as the co-founder of ticket management company CrowdSurge" then I don't know how people found out, because I can't find any reliable, independent coverage about this. The only saving grace is the LA Times article which, though primarily about music firm, SQE, at least has a small amount of background info about Webber. Sionk (talk) 10:14, 30 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep - as the creator, I'd like to address the nominators concerns re "fails WP:ANYBIO". The specifics are: "(1) The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for one several times. (2) The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field" In regards (1), was listed in Billboards 2010 "30 under 30". In regards (2) quoting the LA Times SQE's first big coup was landing Webber. He left his position as the vice president of A&R for the U.K.-based XL Recordings to helm the firm. Billboard had even named Webber one of its "30 Under 30" music-biz stars in 2010 for his regional scouting acumen for XL. But after working on Adele and M.I.A.'s A&R teams and cosigning Odd Future's Tyler, the Creator to the label.... or the mentions in Billboard magazine re his original joining to XL Recordings or his promotion to VP of A&R for XL Recordings. Then lets not forget that in 2011 he sells out his shares to Blavatnik in noted app CrowdSurge, valuing the company at $30M (one of the reasons he was nominated "30under30") Ref from Recess LLC, noted music/entrepreneur event. To address Sionk concern re CrowdSurge, I added the Companies House ref (NOTE: behind a paywall which I have access to. I dislike using them, hence why I added another ref re Adele from an accessible site over saying "see album notes"). In total there are now 13 references going back to 2007, creating 38 cites, including the photographic excerpt from the Steve Agello interview at Rolling Stone magazine where in the (behind paywall access) text he expands on Webber's management at Size Records. I am more than willing to listen to any promotional concerns, and have in light of this feedback toned down the article. Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 11:31, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Being on a list of 30 people isn't a "well-known and significant award or honor". Neither does a government company listing demonstrate that this company has any note (or indeed if it is the same Seb Webber). The only question is whether the snippets of news/photo interviews are significant enough for WP:GNG. Sionk (talk) 12:29, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, I listened and reacted. You see "30under30" as non-significant, but accept that he may pass under WP:GNG. I'll respect that, but note that Billboard in the music world is not an also-ran publication, and nor do they publish 30under30 more than once a year - plus how many Brits get on it? Secondly re CrowdSurge, that "government listing" paperwork (fully court authorised in the UK, so a highly reliable source) shows up Benjamin Bronfman as a second stage investor. Thirdly I added two extra refs re CrowdSurge and TicketMaster, and then an FT ref re Blavatnik's buy in (latter pretty short, but there). Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 14:17, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
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 * Keep It is reasonably well referenced, but could be improved, and I believe is sufficiently notable to have a wikipedia page Wayne Jayes 15:00, 30 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep does seem to get enough mentions in reliable sources to meet WP:GNG. Antrocent (&#9835;&#9836;) 02:35, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
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