Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sebastian Browne, 12th Marquess of Sligo


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The result was redirect to Marquess of Sligo. ✗ plicit  01:37, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Sebastian Browne, 12th Marquess of Sligo

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British noblesman who fails WP:BIO, in particular WP:BASIC. Never sat in the House of Lords so cannot qualify for WP:NPOL either. The London Gazette and Sydney Morning Herald sources are primary and do not provide significant coverage; and Debrett's only covers the subject's genealogy, which is insufficient to establish notability. BEFORE didn't turn up any reliable sources, with the exception of a passing mention regarding his family's estate. Potential redirect target at Marquess of Sligo. Pilaz (talk) 00:22, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Royalty and nobility, Ireland, United Kingdom,  and Australia. Pilaz (talk) 00:22, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Per WP:PEERAGE, members of the peerage are not conferred with automatic notability. And so WP:NBIO and/or WP:SIGCOV would need to be met. And there is no evidence that either criteria is met. In the article itself, the only sources we find are a run-of-the-mill newspaper wedding announcement (a form of classified/small-ad) and routine Gazette and Debrett's entries (which each respectively PREDATE the subject's birth and "succession" by a decade). Outside the article, and in my own quick WP:BEFORE search, what I mostly find are Wikipedia mirrors and the types of entries in self-published peerage websites which have long been considered unreliable for sourcing/notability purposes. Otherwise a Google search returns the subject's real-estate business website, LinkedIn profile and passing mentions in news stories which are substantively about something else (like cousin's obituary). With an eye on WP:ANYBIO, I looked in the Dictionary of Irish Biography (to see if there was a "an entry in a country's standard national biographical dictionary"). And, while the subject is again mentioned briefly in someone else's bio, there is no entry for the subject himself. (Holders of titles are not automatically notable. Notability doesn't automatically transfer from the title to the title-holder. Notability is not inherited. Figuratively or literally.) Guliolopez (talk) 01:16, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Marquess of Sligo, his main peerage title, given that his purported notability is primarily based on a peerage title. If he later passes WP:BIO, the article can be re-created at that time. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 06:29, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete titles are not sufficient for notability, there is no sigcov for this individual. GeebaKhap (talk) 12:44, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect per Metropolitan90. Deus et lex (talk) 11:00, 8 September 2022 (UTC)


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